Jordan Hasay race

aklm wrote:

She is just fulfilling her contract requirement so she can get her minimum pay. She probably made no bonus money this year and is not making very much. But, has to complete a certain number of races to not get docked more.

Probably this. No reason to run an uptempo half 2 weeks after Boston. Looks like she started slower & just settled into a comfortable pace. She didn't try to race this at all. Wonder if the race offered her a small appearance fee. Couldn't find anything about prize money but sometimes races like this have weirdly ok prize purses. The men's race was won by a local too so maybe they made it a goal to get two local/hometown elites .

NERunner03533 wrote:

aklm wrote:

She is just fulfilling her contract requirement so she can get her minimum pay. She probably made no bonus money this year and is not making very much. But, has to complete a certain number of races to not get docked more.

Probably this. No reason to run an uptempo half 2 weeks after Boston. Looks like she started slower & just settled into a comfortable pace. She didn't try to race this at all. Wonder if the race offered her a small appearance fee. Couldn't find anything about prize money but sometimes races like this have weirdly ok prize purses. The men's race was won by a local too so maybe they made it a goal to get two local/hometown elites .

The Wine Country Race Series does a pretty good job of recruiting local elites when they want to. They usually don't get more than one or two though.

She said just couple of weeks ago she is shutting down any competitive running and taking a break for several months to think things over..

Why would anyone expect her to have some amazing time? She is not even training hard at this point...

Another level wrote:

If someone thinks that running a race like this is for the contract then they have no understanding of pro contracts.

Actually that’s exactly why she’s running this. Which shows you have zero idea how pro contracts work. Nike athletes have a certain number of races they have to run. She hasn’t hit that number and the races she’s run have been bad so she has to go ahead and hit that required number so she won’t be reduced. This is contracts 101. It’s why you see elites running local road races at the end of the year.

low number expert wrote:

Bowerman contracts require a minimum of 1 race every 2 years, preferably at a high school track somewhere in the northwest with only other Bowermans as opponents. Those 400m's you witnessed were just tempo runs to keep them sharp for the upcoming 2023 race.

POD.

Well done, sir.

hmmmahh wrote:

Another level wrote:

If someone thinks that running a race like this is for the contract then they have no understanding of pro contracts.

Actually that’s exactly why she’s running this. Which shows you have zero idea how pro contracts work. Nike athletes have a certain number of races they have to run. She hasn’t hit that number and the races she’s run have been bad so she has to go ahead and hit that required number so she won’t be reduced. This is contracts 101. It’s why you see elites running local road races at the end of the year.

Which is hilarious, and shows how out-of-touch these contracts are with modern marketing.

Do you think anyone gives a fvvvck that she ran this? No.

They would be better off having her record a hamstring workout and chat about it.

Another level wrote:

If someone thinks that running a race like this is for the contract then they have no understanding of pro contracts.

Not quite sure what your handle (Another level) means, clearly not the "Level" where a reputable contract is in place. It's very common to have a minimum race quota clause in the contract, especially road racing. If injured there are very specific clauses as to the injury and duration. Most shoe companies are somewhat forgiving for a season, if injuries become a chronic issue for more than that the contract will be adjusted accordingly. With road racing, visibility is important and usually, they will allow low-key races in addition to mandatory larger races which include the U.S. Championships. This race also could be satisfying a "proof of fitness" requirement for her contract in relation to another marathon next year. Jordan is a very recognizable and likable athlete, Nike would like to maximize that in as many races possible. The "real" money is in her actual performance bonuses.

~18 minutes off the world lead time this year. wow. Even at her best she is not sniffing anywhere near that 62 minute time. Time to hit the ultra scene.

Not when she’s struggling to even run a half marathon. She needs to stop running indefinitely.

CU Buff wrote:

~18 minutes off the world lead time this year. wow. Even at her best she is not sniffing anywhere near that 62 minute time. Time to hit the ultra scene.

Gidey had pacers the whole race. I don't think Hasay had any pacers (or I sure hope not). That makes a HUGE difference.

shoemasster wrote:

hmmmahh wrote:

Actually that’s exactly why she’s running this. Which shows you have zero idea how pro contracts work. Nike athletes have a certain number of races they have to run. She hasn’t hit that number and the races she’s run have been bad so she has to go ahead and hit that required number so she won’t be reduced. This is contracts 101. It’s why you see elites running local road races at the end of the year.

Which is hilarious, and shows how out-of-touch these contracts are with modern marketing.

Do you think anyone gives a fvvvck that she ran this? No.

They would be better off having her record a hamstring workout and chat about it.

Clearly you, and many others, care that she ran this, since this already is at 2 pages on LetsRun.com

almostsbs1 wrote:

She said just couple of weeks ago she is shutting down any competitive running and taking a break for several months to think things over..

Why would anyone expect her to have some amazing time? She is not even training hard at this point...

If anyone here followed running, they'd already know this.

danube steak wrote:

CU Buff wrote:

~18 minutes off the world lead time this year. wow. Even at her best she is not sniffing anywhere near that 62 minute time. Time to hit the ultra scene.

Gidey had pacers the whole race. I don't think Hasay had any pacers (or I sure hope not). That makes a HUGE difference.

LOL, good one!

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

brien evans wrote:

This is a trainwreck of a thread. So much speculation about a meaningless race ran by a nobody.

LR hobby joggers kicking themselves because they know they could've run 1:19:59 and been the guy sprinting past her at the end. Epic profile pic for the ages!

That was exactly my first thought. All the guys in my club would be super jealous. Signed vf to boot

America's fury wrote:

almostsbs1 wrote:

She said just couple of weeks ago she is shutting down any competitive running and taking a break for several months to think things over..

Why would anyone expect her to have some amazing time? She is not even training hard at this point...

If anyone here followed running, they'd already know this.

No one in this thread expected her to run a fast time. They are speculating why she ran at all.

Might sound crazy but maybe she ran... for fun.

Guys just stop speculating. She said after boston she had no explanation for her performance and she will take time off. For whatever reason she ran this race, it doesn't matter. Something is not right with her and it might as well be psychologically. Why keep throwing oil in the fire especially when she said she reads the message boards. I for one think she has a huge amount of talent as we've seen with her fast marathons. Once she can get out of whatever this slump is she can be competitive again.

But imagine yourself in her shoes for once. Not knowing why you can't perform. Feeling bad about yourself and then having random internet trolls add on top of that.

Supralapsarian wrote:

shoemasster wrote:

Which is hilarious, and shows how out-of-touch these contracts are with modern marketing.

Do you think anyone gives a fvvvck that she ran this? No.

They would be better off having her record a hamstring workout and chat about it.

Clearly you, and many others, care that she ran this, since this already is at 2 pages on LetsRun.com

Wrong, I care about the idiotic discussion on contracts.

I have never bought Nike gear in my life.

Jordan is a big supporter of the local running scene on the central coast.

I'm not sure it was wise to enter a half marathon so soon after a marathon, but she was having fun doing what she loves.