New Zealand COVID vaccination rate overtakes America's.

troll_69 wrote:

qegqw wrote:

You mean a tiny country of a handful of islands, and without the stupid political division people like you encourage?

Man, I wonder why the situation is different.

What does the size of the country have to do with it? Vaccines are widely available in the US to anyone who wants them. The only people encouraging political division in the US are the crazy antivaxxers (guess what political affiliation they are overwhelmingly associated with?) filling up ICU's to own the libs.

Ok Harambe.

You are too stupid to see you have just encouraged political division there.

You little maggot, you.

troll_69 wrote:

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

I can't imagine the mentality of anyone who would hold up New Zealand as a positive example in this context. The most racist country of all the developed economic countries in the world. New Zealand is a shameful example with respect to Covid and vaccines.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-structural-racism-leads-to-inequitable-vaccine-rollout-study/VTOFHQ6IPHKIMRITSD4OPZ4B34/https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/09-07-2021/what-new-zealands-huge-gap-in-covid-outcomes-tells-us-about-systemic-racism/https://www.npr.org/2021/10/13/1045320600/maori-leader-calls-new-zealands-covid-19-strategy-a-death-warrant-for-her-people

And yet with all those barriers, that obviously deserve to be addressed, New Zealand has overtaken the US. Never said New Zealand was a paragon of virtue or governance. Just used it to highlight how dysfunctional the US has become.

Well, you did an atrocious job of highlighting anything. Of all the countries in the world to compare the US vaccine program to, you picked some tiny, far-flung racist colonial territory with virtually no relevance at all in world matters. It's like comparing complex issues that New York City faces with how the crackers are doing in Boofoo, Alabama.

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

And yet with all those barriers, that obviously deserve to be addressed, New Zealand has overtaken the US. Never said New Zealand was a paragon of virtue or governance. Just used it to highlight how dysfunctional the US has become.

Well, you did an atrocious job of highlighting anything. Of all the countries in the world to compare the US vaccine program to, you picked some tiny, far-flung racist colonial territory with virtually no relevance at all in world matters. It's like comparing complex issues that New York City faces with how the crackers are doing in Boofoo, Alabama.

Yes, the comparison certainly doesn't do the US any favours. But the US still leads the world - for a pandemic balls-up.

Dew wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

What does the size of the country have to do with it? Vaccines are widely available in the US to anyone who wants them. The only people encouraging political division in the US are the crazy antivaxxers (guess what political affiliation they are overwhelmingly associated with?) filling up ICU's to own the libs.

Ok Harambe.

You are too stupid to see you have just encouraged political division there.

You little maggot, you.

Very cute to say that when your ilk on this forum constantly demonize "libs" and democrats and fearmonger against them, attributing every ill the US suffers from to them. Anything else to say beside the unhinged accusations of Harambe having 100s of anonymous and registered handles?

Dew wrote:

Ok Harambe.

You are too stupid to see you have just encouraged political division there.

You little maggot, you.

LOL

We're now waiting for '2600 bro'.

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

And yet with all those barriers, that obviously deserve to be addressed, New Zealand has overtaken the US. Never said New Zealand was a paragon of virtue or governance. Just used it to highlight how dysfunctional the US has become.

Well, you did an atrocious job of highlighting anything. Of all the countries in the world to compare the US vaccine program to, you picked some tiny, far-flung racist colonial territory with virtually no relevance at all in world matters. It's like comparing complex issues that New York City faces with how the crackers are doing in Boofoo, Alabama.

How about the G7 then? And New Zealand was selected to highlight US dysfunction: they were extremely disadvantaged in procurement of the vaccine, and as a country you deem to be "irrelevant", "racist" and "colonial", they have blown past the US on the vaccination front. This is an embarrassment for the US. There are no special considerations to be pointed to here; the US does not face any serious vaccine supply problems and there is no legitimate excuse for low vaccine uptake (unless you consider the cesspool of misinformation propagated by antivaxxer grifters a legitimate excuse)..

troll_69 wrote:

Dew wrote:

Ok Harambe.

You are too stupid to see you have just encouraged political division there.

You little maggot, you.

Very cute to say that when your ilk on this forum constantly demonize "libs" and democrats and fearmonger against them, attributing every ill the US suffers from to them. Anything else to say beside the unhinged accusations of Harambe having 100s of anonymous and registered handles?

I have never demonized anyone for their political choice.

I have never fearmongered.

What else are you going to lie about, Harambe?

troll_69 wrote:

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

Well, you did an atrocious job of highlighting anything. Of all the countries in the world to compare the US vaccine program to, you picked some tiny, far-flung racist colonial territory with virtually no relevance at all in world matters. It's like comparing complex issues that New York City faces with how the crackers are doing in Boofoo, Alabama.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/11/world/asia/us-vaccination-rate-low.html

How about the G7 then?

G7 would have been a lot more intelligent choice for this comparison you want to make. Much less an apples to oranges thing, and you wouldn't have to deal with the underlying racist issues that skews all health care data from New Zealand.

You should give this G7 comparison idea a shot if the data works out arguably in favor of your admitted bias.

Canada has 2x vaccinated 73% of the entire population, 83% of the eligible population.

An unvaccinated person in Ontario now has a lower chance of getting infected than for the entire vaccinated population of any US state other than Hawaii.

The response of 30% of the US population to this public health emergency is shameful. The rest of the world used to hold these people in contempt. Now they just pity them.

China Joe wrote:

Vaccines are working so well we're being ordered to get a second booster in just 6 months! That's what success looks like.

+1

China needs to pay for this, pure and simple

They are benefitting and the rest of the world is suffering.

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

and you wouldn't have to deal with the underlying racist issues that skews all health care data from New Zealand.

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are you honestly saying that US healthcare data is free of racist bias? Are you that stupid?

USAissoDarnLame wrote:

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

and you wouldn't have to deal with the underlying racist issues that skews all health care data from New Zealand.

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are you honestly saying that US healthcare data is free of racist bias? Are you that stupid?

I thought it was pretty obvious that was so lacking in self-awareness as to not deserve a reply.

USAissoDarnLame wrote:

Piglet Muldoonie wrote:

and you wouldn't have to deal with the underlying racist issues that skews all health care data from New Zealand.

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are you honestly saying that US healthcare data is free of racist bias? Are you that stupid?

Yes, he is.

troll_69 wrote:

USAissoDarnLame wrote:

are you honestly saying that US healthcare data is free of racist bias? Are you that stupid?

I thought it was pretty obvious that was so lacking in self-awareness as to not deserve a reply.

No, that's not what you thought. You didn't have time to think about strident deflections like your America-hating friend there tried about things I never posted. Your time was consumed contemplating your significant errors in using New Zealand as a comparison to the US on vaccine strategy, and also trying to figure out whether and how to try and resuscitate your own thread with that G7 idea you belatedly came up with. It looks like you've decided the data there didn't hold up either. So you're kind of left with a failed thread on your record, unless you can come up with a better deflection than the one above. Maybe just pack it in and try something else tomorrow?

rrrtty wrote:

Canada has 2x vaccinated 73% of the entire population, 83% of the eligible population.

An unvaccinated person in Ontario now has a lower chance of getting infected than for the entire vaccinated population of any US state other than Hawaii.

The response of 30% of the US population to this public health emergency is shameful. The rest of the world used to hold these people in contempt. Now they just pity them.

Canada should get out of NATO. Why would Canadians accept being in a military alliance with the US ? Doesn't make sense.

troll_69 wrote:

I think the racial gap in vaccinations is regrettable, and actions taken to mitigate it should be encouraged and drawn attention to.

Also, correcting my last post: looking at census.gov, it appears the percentage of US population that is white is 60 percent.

AND 60% of those who've been vaccinated. So: WHAT "racial gap"?

I see the All Blacks beat USA 104-14.

hi wrote:

I see the All Blacks beat USA 104-14.

The clear superiority of a country of 5 million over 330 million.

Yeah, about that... wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

I think the racial gap in vaccinations is regrettable, and actions taken to mitigate it should be encouraged and drawn attention to.

Also, correcting my last post: looking at census.gov, it appears the percentage of US population that is white is 60 percent.

AND 60% of those who've been vaccinated. So: WHAT "racial gap"?

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/

I was correcting a previous post that was not referring to the percentage of white people vaccinated, but the percentage of people who are deadset on not getting the vaccine. You misunderstood my post or didn't read the post I was referring to.