Fauci lied, people died. NIH admits to "gain-of-function" research

Armstronglivs wrote:

same ol, but different wrote:

Oh, you mean like the astronomical treasonous lie that was 'Russia collusion'?

https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/bd2878f/2147483647/resize/1200x%3E/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.beam.usnews.com%2F65%2F6e%2F620054fb48a896921943384e12cf%2Fthumb-1.jpg

Russia's involvement in the 2016 election was a fact. So was Trump's obstruction of the investigation. But Trump's biggest lie is that he "won" the 2020 election - which the Jan 6 morons bought into, along with the entire Republican Party, bar Liz Cheney. It is the Party of Lies.

Can you imagine anyone still clinging to the Russians did it narrative?

Same people who believe the official Covid story

The Unkle wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Russia's involvement in the 2016 election was a fact. So was Trump's obstruction of the investigation. But Trump's biggest lie is that he "won" the 2020 election - which the Jan 6 morons bought into, along with the entire Republican Party, bar Liz Cheney. It is the Party of Lies.

Can you imagine anyone still clinging to the Russians did it narrative?

Same people who believe the official Covid story

The left’s obsession with this idea that Trump was some Russian puppet, that the Russians won the election for Trump back in 2016 or that the internet is just full of Russian agitators pushing conservative talking points is evidence that conservatives don’t hold a monopoly on ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Harambe wrote:

TBF they didn't think it would cause GoF! If you do an experiment that you don't think will cause more infectious virus, but it does... that is bad risk management... but technically they didn't fund experiments with the intent of doing GoF.

Nitpicking but there are important distinctions here.

Was this Gain of Function research? It doesn’t seem to meet the definition of the kind of research that was subject to the moratorium.

this is it wrote:

"Gain of function"

I see the jabbering yahoos have learned a new scary phrase from their crazy uncle's FB page. What a joke.

Look, squirrel!

Harambe wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Yeah it’s a bad look. When you’re in front of Congress you have to have your ducks in a row.

I just don’t assume malice or ulterior motives just general screw up/lack of knowledge.

GoF research is a fine line. In some ways is necessary in some ways it’s idiotic.

TBF they didn't think it would cause GoF! If you do an experiment that you don't think will cause more infectious virus, but it does... that is bad risk management... but technically they didn't fund experiments with the intent of doing GoF.

Nitpicking but there are important distinctions here.

Ha! This is just people doing things with a wink and a nod.

During the Congressional hearings, I heard Fauci's replies and saw it was all a game of semantics for a career bureaucrat like Fauci. It reminded me of these famous quotes...

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." -Bill Clinton

"I'm shocked... shocked to find that gambling is going on here!" ... "Your winnings, sir."

Fauci tried, people died

Let it slide, let it slide

Let science guide

Move politics aside

Put down your pride

Thicken your hide

Mail order a bride

Open your rear wide

And just go home now coz this is not going anywhere.

Fauci is a con man. He lied about funding the kings of gain of function research (aka Daszak/EcoHealth and Baric and Shi ZhengLi) and is obfuscating his role in orchestrating damage control efforts intended to hide NIH's hand in funding/training Wuhan Institute of Gain of Function Research. Not a surprise, to be honest. Fauci is behind the cover up and attempts to stifle honest investigation into the lab leak scenario. He also pushed the expensive pharmaceutical lead balloon remdesivir. He's a liar and a despicable person all around.

The Unkle wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Russia's involvement in the 2016 election was a fact. So was Trump's obstruction of the investigation. But Trump's biggest lie is that he "won" the 2020 election - which the Jan 6 morons bought into, along with the entire Republican Party, bar Liz Cheney. It is the Party of Lies.

Can you imagine anyone still clinging to the Russians did it narrative?

Same people who believe the official Covid story

And here we have the one who above all lies to himself.

Armstronglivs wrote:

It is surely ironic that Republicans are up in arms about "lying" as they are undoubtedly world champions at the practice - beginning with Trump's "Big Lie". Since Fauci is an intelligent man - unlike any Republican - he is unlikely to have lied about something where he would know he would be found out (as Republicans do) but was probably not advised of the research continuing.

Typical lib response. But, but, but, but Trump!

You effing moran loser

Armstronglivs wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Can you imagine anyone still clinging to the Russians did it narrative?

Same people who believe the official Covid story

And here we have the one who above all lies to himself.

Says the guy still clinging to the Russian collusion lie!

Can't make this up

rekrunner wrote:

Harambe wrote:

TBF they didn't think it would cause GoF! If you do an experiment that you don't think will cause more infectious virus, but it does... that is bad risk management... but technically they didn't fund experiments with the intent of doing GoF.

Nitpicking but there are important distinctions here.

Was this Gain of Function research? It doesn’t seem to meet the definition of the kind of research that was subject to the moratorium.

AFAIK it didn't meet the standard BUT they were required to report any strains that showed faster growth, just to be totally overt and safe, even if they never intended to produce any. They didn't report these strains.

I'm not saying EcoHealth and co. didn't do unsafe science, but saying that the NIH was like "let's do GoF and lie about it" doesn't seem to be true.

ITT: people saying "but Russia" when they lose an argument

At this point, I think it may be more likely that Fauci colluded with China than that Trump colluded with Russia.

Armstronglivs wrote:

It is surely ironic that Republicans are up in arms about "lying" as they are undoubtedly world champions at the practice - beginning with Trump's "Big Lie". Since Fauci is an intelligent man - unlike any Republican - he is unlikely to have lied about something where he would know he would be found out (as Republicans do) but was probably not advised of the research continuing.

Brojos please ban all Australian IP addresses for political threads.

figgo wrote:

Lied under oath to Congress.

"Pandemic of the liars!!! Confirmed!!!"

Harambe wrote:

ITT: people saying "but Russia" when they lose an argument

Why are you always pointing the finger at yourself. Dude, you are the most notorious liar on these boards. Get over yourself man child.

Harambe wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Was this Gain of Function research? It doesn’t seem to meet the definition of the kind of research that was subject to the moratorium.

AFAIK it didn't meet the standard BUT they were required to report any strains that showed faster growth, just to be totally overt and safe, even if they never intended to produce any. They didn't report these strains.

I'm not saying EcoHealth and co. didn't do unsafe science, but saying that the NIH was like "let's do GoF and lie about it" doesn't seem to be true.

Yet, they did lie and we all know this is the truth. The entire pandemic has Fauci's lying handsall over it. Fauci and crew should be brought up on charges of genocide at the Hague. Society needs to bring these monsters down right now. We all should be demanding they be jailed for life and the world should stand up to this piles of lies and hypocrisy. Just to be clear, if I did not say it already, they are liars and this pandemic was not a mistake.

And don't forget that NIH funded the Moderna vaccine.