roaringkitty wrote:
I agree with the disrespect to Ryan. The fact is that Frank only became good because he gets a big boost from the Nike next%. He has zero natural talent compared to Hall. Nobody will get that record until they train in Mammoth Lakes like Ryan did and live at above 8,000 feet. Unless of course you can afford 10,000 ft chambers in your house like Rupp.
Dang, so you’re telling me if I buy these shoes I don’t need to train and can be the 9th fastest American at half marathon?
Called it.
what timing wrote:
This is so disrespectful to Ryan. Gather round and listen up, kiddos. Even though he’s become a clown with the chemical-assisted buff body and the cringey bro persona, Ryan is the best we’ve ever had.
I’ve coached HS and college in CA for 35 years. I’ve seen em all come through the pipeline, and Ryan is the best. I can’t stress enough how rare it is for a westerner to move like that kid. Pure silk. It was a shock to see him struggle for the bulk of college and kind of a “finally” thing to see him start to win at the very end and for the rest of the country to realize what we in CA knew since 1999–this kid is VERY special. I’ve said this previously and I’ll say it again: if Ryan ran 2:05 non-legal and 2:06 legal, that’s the best we can hope for. The only person who has ever come close is Rupp in super shoes (so add 2? minutes).
A USA born-n-raised male running 2:06 in old school flats like asics hyperspeeds has come along exactly ONCE in this nation’s history. Appreciate it and respect it.
I remember those hyperspeeds. They had the same amount of cushion of two pairs of socks. They had a fishnet outsole that would have pebbles lodge into them. In addition to overtraining, probably another reason that lead to Ryan Hall’s chronic injuries.
roaringkitty wrote:
I agree with the disrespect to Ryan. The fact is that Frank only became good because he gets a big boost from the Nike next%. He has zero natural talent compared to Hall. Nobody will get that record until they train in Mammoth Lakes like Ryan did and live at above 8,000 feet. Unless of course you can afford 10,000 ft chambers in your house like Rupp.
It is not disrespectful to say you are going after someone's record. That's hero worship crap. That said, I said Lara would not break his record, now or ever, because he doesn't have that kind of talent. But, you people saying he was being disrespectful to Ryan Hall are ridiculous. Runners are just people. They aren't heroes. They aren't gods.
what timing wrote:
This is so disrespectful to Ryan.
It is not ya babbling boob.
dfljjkdlklkfidr wrote:
Tugboat1980 wrote:
My SWAG on their “supershoe” is that
What does this mean
Scientific wild a$$ guess
rojo wrote:
what timing wrote:
This is so disrespectful to Ryan. Gather round and listen up, kiddos. Even though he’s become a clown with the chemical-assisted buff body and the cringey bro persona, Ryan is the best we’ve ever had.
I’ve coached HS and college in CA for 35 years. I’ve seen em all come through the pipeline, and Ryan is the best. I can’t stress enough how rare it is for a westerner to move like that kid. Pure silk. It was a shock to see him struggle for the bulk of college and kind of a “finally” thing to see him start to win at the very end and for the rest of the country to realize what we in CA knew since 1999–this kid is VERY special. I’ve said this previously and I’ll say it again: if Ryan ran 2:05 non-legal and 2:06 legal, that’s the best we can hope for. The only person who has ever come close is Rupp in super shoes (so add 2? minutes).
A USA born-n-raised male running 2:06 in old school flats like asics hyperspeeds has come along exactly ONCE in this nation’s history. Appreciate it and respect it.
Post of the year. Loved it.
Of course you did. There is nothing disrespectful about putting it out there that you want to run fast & aim big. If more people did what Lara just did, we would probably have a new AR by now. Hall was an amazing runner. His time is probably worth low to mid 59 in the super shoe era. We basically haven't had anyone able to run 60-flat in more than a decade.
Lara ran a good race & should be getting more praise for rolling solo to Europe and running 61 or just under. Tons of guys have better PBs at the shorter stuff. Time to start running faster.
NERunner03533 wrote:
rojo wrote:
Post of the year. Loved it.
Of course you did. There is nothing disrespectful about putting it out there that you want to run fast & aim big. If more people did what Lara just did, we would probably have a new AR by now. Hall was an amazing runner. His time is probably worth low to mid 59 in the super shoe era. We basically haven't had anyone able to run 60-flat in more than a decade.
Lara ran a good race & should be getting more praise for rolling solo to Europe and running 61 or just under. Tons of guys have better PBs at the shorter stuff. Time to start running faster.
Preach, this should be the standard
BOHICA wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Is there a prize?
Yeah, your prize is having the threads you start be wholly ignored.
Well played, sir
60:58 nice showing
what timing wrote:
This is so disrespectful to Ryan. Gather round and listen up, kiddos. Even though he’s become a clown with the chemical-assisted buff body and the cringey bro persona, Ryan is the best we’ve ever had.
I’ve coached HS and college in CA for 35 years. I’ve seen em all come through the pipeline, and Ryan is the best. I can’t stress enough how rare it is for a westerner to move like that kid. Pure silk. It was a shock to see him struggle for the bulk of college and kind of a “finally” thing to see him start to win at the very end and for the rest of the country to realize what we in CA knew since 1999–this kid is VERY special. I’ve said this previously and I’ll say it again: if Ryan ran 2:05 non-legal and 2:06 legal, that’s the best we can hope for. The only person who has ever come close is Rupp in super shoes (so add 2? minutes).
A USA born-n-raised male running 2:06 in old school flats like asics hyperspeeds has come along exactly ONCE in this nation’s history. Appreciate it and respect it.
+100 on this.
If you weren't there in Nov 2007 in Central Park to watch Ryan drop down to 2:06 pace in the middle of the trials marathon then you'll never get how special a runner he was. His time at our top was not terribly long, he burned that candle up well and truly, but what he did that day, his day at Boston and his superb performance at London was so special, that they rate as generational performances. Still, to this day, only KK, hall and rupp are in that class of speed, over the marathon distance for the USA. Period. Millions of people taking shots at it, and there are a total of 3 men at this level. Period. Damn, that was amazing to watch.
cyanide wrote:
shoemasster wrote:
Who?
Seriously. Literally the first time I've heard of this fella.
Maybe we never will again? Not much of a resume.
Did his company pay LRC to start this thread or something?
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!