Alec Baldwin just shot and KILLED a woman on a movie set

Who is the Armor in Charge of the Movie? Does this person have experience with firearms from one of the tens of thousands of standard, conventional, regular, elite -- local, county, state, or federal emergency first responder's organizations? Or the US Marines Corps?

Monster of your making, Rojo. Unless I am blind and deaf to the fact that most club run conversations revolve around political issues, conspiracies, and macho posturing? I must run with that weird and boring club that just chats about training, recent movies, and what's going on at work.

Flagpole wrote:

From the 90s wrote:

The irony is how liberal Hollywood preaches anti gun yet their movies are filled with gun violence. Guns used safely to hunt and protect oneself are appropriate. However they rarely portray this responsible use of them. Looks like Baldwin’s chickens have come home too roost.

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

Baldwin can't tell what is kind or unkind . His comedy is based on mocking a personality trait of others . He is crying because he is a killer , a reckless person who should be punished for negligence . Those who work in production know he was to safety check the firearm . Watch this cold blooded person lawyer up and focus blame on others .

Anyone handling a real gun should have basic safety training. I doubt that Mr. Baldwin did?

Also, i wonder if we're going to see a push to ban guns from movies or movie sets? Happens everywhere else when a gun kills someone.

Haha, classic. You're so right. I can't tell if Rojo is so stupid and naive that he believes all his nonsense or is just diabolically laughing all the way to the bank. He also says that he supports vaccines and didn't vote from Trump, but he might as well accept sponsorship from Q-Anon or the NRC the way that this Board is filled with right wing conspiracy theories and moderated to allow it.

Rojo, Q-Anon, Putin and Trump all thank you for doing your own little part to make the world a worse place. Hope you feel good about that. (Of course you do, as you stubbornly dismiss comments like this as ridiculous. You have the self-reflection and self-awareness abilities of Trump and his ego to boot...)

quote]I'll Take This One... wrote:

Monster of your making, Rojo. Unless I am blind and deaf to the fact that most club run conversations revolve around political issues, conspiracies, and macho posturing? I must run with that weird and boring club that just chats about training, recent movies, and what's going on at work.[/quote]

America's fury wrote:

Anyone handling a real gun should have basic safety training. I doubt that Mr. Baldwin did?

Also, i wonder if we're going to see a push to ban guns from movies or movie sets? Happens everywhere else when a gun kills someone.

Maybe ban Alec Baldwins from movies or movie sets or tv sets.

Robson Street . wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

Baldwin can't tell what is kind or unkind . His comedy is based on mocking a personality trait of others . He is crying because he is a killer , a reckless person who should be punished for negligence . Those who work in production know he was to safety check the firearm . Watch this cold blooded person lawyer up and focus blame on others .

There will be questions about this shooting because is a known violent person. He was arrested a few years ago for punching someone over a parking. He was required to take an anger management class. Someone crying (feeling remorseful) after they intentionally do something to someone else with an unexpected result is not uncommon. That two non-actors were shot means that the gun was fired twice. That one person was killed and one is in emergency means the shooting was at close range and they were directly in the line of sight.

One article... which could have been wrong... said a projectile passed through the woman and then hit the man. So it was one shot.

If that's true, it had to be a live round. A bullet wedged in a barrel, like the Lee accident, wouldn't have enough energy to pass entirely through a person.

How a live round got into a gun on the set is the bigger question.

Baldwin wouldn't have to be pointing it intentionally at the cinematographer. She could have been standing to the side and he pulled the trigger while handling the gun.

However... this was a western so it had to be a revolver. Revolvers have LONG trigger pulls. You don't "accidentally" pull the trigger on a revolver. I think the trigger was deliberately pulled. Baldwin must have been playing around with the revolver.

Basic firearm safety says NEVER point the barrel of a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.

Lots of basic handgun safety rules had to be broken for this to happen.

- Check any gun you pick up to see if it is loaded.

- Treat all guns as if they are loaded.

- Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

- Never "paint" a person/object you don't want to shoot by sweeping the barrel around to point at them as you are handling the gun.

In my state, both Baldwin and the person who let the gun be on the set with a live round could be charged with a Class E felony... one to five years in prison. I doubt if that will happen. It will be interesting to see what the story is when it comes out. Maybe the guy who survived saw the whole thing?

danube steak wrote:

America's fury wrote:

Anyone handling a real gun should have basic safety training. I doubt that Mr. Baldwin did?

Also, i wonder if we're going to see a push to ban guns from movies or movie sets? Happens everywhere else when a gun kills someone.

Maybe ban Alec Baldwins from movies or movie sets or tv sets.

He's a mental case. He was required to take an anger management class. He is one of the rudest actors in Hollywood, which is saying a lot.

Robson Street . wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

Baldwin can't tell what is kind or unkind . His comedy is based on mocking a personality trait of others . He is crying because he is a killer , a reckless person who should be punished for negligence . Those who work in production know he was to safety check the firearm . Watch this cold blooded person lawyer up and focus blame on others .

If the Director of Photography was black and Baldwin was a cop, BLM would have trashed and looted the local Walmart by now, and Baldwin would be in jail. (Officer Kim Potter in Brooklyn Center).

But because he’s a prominent loudmouth liberal, he gets supported by his ilk here. We are supposed to excuse this lethal crime because of “humanity.”

Good grief, the double standards.

fisky wrote:

In my state, both Baldwin and the person who let the gun be on the set with a live round could be charged with a Class E felony... one to five years in prison.

The prop person who loaded the gun is not responsible for how close an actor gets when they decide to pull a trigger. At close range a live round isn't necessary to kill someone. A blank will kill at close range.

You must never have watched any tv or movies. Guns are pointed at people and at the camera all the time.

oops baldwin wrote:

fisky wrote:

In my state, both Baldwin and the person who let the gun be on the set with a live round could be charged with a Class E felony... one to five years in prison.

The prop person who loaded the gun is not responsible for how close an actor gets when they decide to pull a trigger. At close range a live round isn't necessary to kill someone. A blank will kill at close range.

I've been shot by a blank. Yes, it can kill someone, but in my case, it merely stung because I was wearing heavy clothing. But if this was only one shot AND it passed through the woman and hit a man, it have to be a live round. A blank has to be pretty close to kill and it couldn't pass entirely through a person. It's usually just a piece of paper wadding that gets projected. Or it's so close the pressure kills, but that would have to almost be touching the person.

Anyway, SOMEONE had to put a live round in the cylinder or fail to check for live rounds before allowing the gun on the set. That's negligence. Of course, it's even more negligence by Baldwin.

The only other possibility I can think of is that the cylinder exploded, which could have sent shrapnel into two people at the same time.

Alec is a douche. I know someone that worked at a juicery where Alec would frequent. He is a massive douche.

Clint never killed anyone.

The last and only time I ever went to a shooting range was when I was maybe 12 along with my dad and 2 brothers. When we got home my little brother was running around waving the "unloaded" pistol around. A few times he pointed it at my face. A few minutes later it went off and went into the wall. The last time I ever went shooting.

Buck snot wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What crap. Guns and violence are part of story telling. You can be 100% against owning most or even all guns and still make a movie that involves guns. Giving Baldwin any grief here is so unkind to say the least. Until we hear otherwise, this appears to have been a tragic accident, and he was reportedly in tears and grief-stricken. Have some humanity.

What crap. Liberals preach that Americans shouldn’t have guns, then make millions of $$$$ glorifying guns.

Would you be this forgiving if Baldwin wasn’t a hard core liberal? Was Dick Cheney deserving of our humanity when he shot someone? At least he didn’t kill them. Baldwin shot a woman, for Christ’s sakes.

I gave Cheney all the sympathy in the world...because I have a heart. Yes, I would be this forgiving for anyone who was in Baldwin's situation. I actually think Baldwin is a prick, but I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone. Guns and violence are part of our world. It would be insane not to feature either in movies, television, or novels. Unlike you, I am capable of separating the real from the fictitious.