Which is more beneficial HM training or 10K training?

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

half marathon Vs 10k wrote:

Which is more beneficial to train for HM or 10K?

HM, as race pace is closer to marathon.

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

This idea that 10Ks and 1/2s (7 miles apart in distance) require virtually the same training has been in vogue now & regurgitated ad nauseam. I don't agree at all. Why not 5K and 10K (3 miles apart) being the same as they are way closer in distance from each other? And I know all about lactate threshold. 1/2 marathon training is way more germane to full. What full are you considering?

lexel wrote:

half marathon Vs 10k wrote:

Which is more beneficial to train for HM or 10K?

HM, as race pace is closer to marathon.

Marathon pace is even closer.

Why not just do 10k training for the bulk of the build up then a 4-6 week marathon specific block with longer tempos and longer long runs then a 2 week taper.

lexel wrote:

half marathon Vs 10k wrote:

Which is more beneficial to train for HM or 10K?

HM, as race pace is closer to marathon.

10k as the slightly faster training will give a better base for the marathon specific stuff that follows...

Serious what is going to be different about your training? A couple more miles on the long run or a few more 5k reps?

I guess if you insist on not doing any specific marathon work, HM would be best. Not too different from 10k training, but IMO the half requires some long run focus which will carry up to the marathon.

half marathon Vs 10k wrote:

The goal is to run a faster marathon.

This could be either achieved by either having a faster HM or faster 10K (not sure about faster 5k).

Which is more beneficial to train for HM or 10K?

Marathon training would be required to run a faster marathon. 🙄

Film Rep wrote:

half marathon Vs 10k wrote:

The goal is to run a faster marathon.

This could be either achieved by either having a faster HM or faster 10K (not sure about faster 5k).

Which is more beneficial to train for HM or 10K?

Marathon training would be required to run a faster marathon. 🙄

Marathon needs the aerobic processes which HM pace best trains. 10k pace is above threshold. If both, look to how italians did it by having first 5k then 10k then HM, then M blocks in that sequence. Speed, then endurance seemed to work well for them.

Jon Arne Glomsrud wrote:

Marathon needs the aerobic processes which HM pace best trains.

Not a genius.

kmaclam wrote:

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

This idea that 10Ks and 1/2s (7 miles apart in distance) require virtually the same training has been in vogue now & regurgitated ad nauseam. I don't agree at all. Why not 5K and 10K (3 miles apart) being the same as they are way closer in distance from each other? And I know all about lactate threshold. 1/2 marathon training is way more germane to full. What full are you considering?

The longer the race the less physiology required to run fast changes. Think of 400-800 meters, they are way more different than the 5k to 10k. And the 5k to 10k is more different than 10k to half marathon. And 10k to half marathon is more different than half marathon to full marathon. There's a reason most good 10k runners run a good half marathon soon after college. But not all good 5k runners run a good 10k, and especially not all good 400 runners can run a good 800.

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

10K and marathon training isn't much different. Guys have run PRs at both distances during the same season, with as little as a few weeks in between.

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

Agreed.

Most mortals can still be making big gains at the shorter stuff, which lowers your potential marathon time. I think most of us can benefit from 5k/10k work before returning to the marathon. If you rip a fast 10k. Chances are you can go out and run a solid half. The mileage and workouts look similar. But to get those PRs to be reflected in a marathon, you need to train for the marathon.

NERunner03533 wrote:

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

Agreed.

Most mortals can still be making big gains at the shorter stuff, which lowers your potential marathon time. I think most of us can benefit from 5k/10k work before returning to the marathon. If you rip a fast 10k. Chances are you can go out and run a solid half. The mileage and workouts look similar. But to get those PRs to be reflected in a marathon, you need to train for the marathon.

After someone rips a fast 10K, how does their training change for the marathon? Guys have run as much as 150mpw, and even more, for 5/10.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

go get a bike wrote:

10k and half training isn't very much different. If you PB in either or you're in shape to PB in the other.

10K and marathon training isn't much different. Guys have run PRs at both distances during the same season, with as little as a few weeks in between.

Frank Shorter at the 72 games and Alberto Salazar 10000 right before I believe it was his 82 Boston win comes to mind. The only real difference that comes to my mind for a marathon and 10k is the emphasis on mileage is going be more important and structure long runs with some quality miles in them for the marathon.