Should your kids be learning Critical Race Theory in school?

You mean should they be taught an accurate account of American History? Yes.

a high school teacher/coach wrote:

You mean should they be taught an accurate account of American History? Yes.

I agree. What does that have to do with CRT?

The teacher's unions have absolutely deluded themselves into believing CRT is about teaching history. They have no idea what it really is or what the goal of CRT's original proponents were, but all the useful idiots have followed along because everyone around them says it's good. So dangerous.

For everybody going to comment and debate as if they know what they're talking about - CRT is a theory, that is all. It's a theoretical framework from which to view issues about race relations, that has never been tested or proven in any empirical sense, people have written a bunch of ideas labeled as CRT and never actually showed if those ideas are true or not. It's based in a philosophy that rejects empiricism, objective truth and science to begin with. So does anyone want to explain to me why this is something we should teach to kids?

Should kids be taught all sides of history? Sure.

She they focus almost exclusively on slavery and conquering of the Natives? No.

Slavery was around and thriving well before the Europeans got to the US. War and killing of other tribes was around before the white man arrived. In fact many tribes attacked early settlers, but in general the European weaponry and technology was superior.

Civilizations have been conquering each other for thousands of years. I’m okay for all of that to be taught, but from my kids’ own homework there is a lot of explaining why one group of people is at a disadvantage decades or even centuries later.

Let it Rupp wrote:

For everybody going to comment and debate as if they know what they're talking about - CRT is a theory, that is all. It's a theoretical framework from which to view issues about race relations, that has never been tested or proven in any empirical sense, people have written a bunch of ideas labeled as CRT and never actually showed if those ideas are true or not. It's based in a philosophy that rejects empiricism, objective truth and science to begin with. So does anyone want to explain to me why this is something we should teach to kids?

Let's test it. Every black person gets 10 whites as slaves for the next 150 years. We can then 'free' the whites and have all sorts of laws to prevent them from voting, access to capital and education and we can see how things turn out after another 150 years....

The core of CRT is pretty non-controversial. The idea that government's action progagated racism isn't something reasonable people disagree with. Nobody reads the Dawes act and goes yeah that was fair. Nobody looks at the FHA polices of the 30-70s and goes they weren't racist. Or the largely segregated army and the lack of gi bill benefits. And so on. The only real debate is how much the effect was and how much we still see the effects of it today. But that is far too nuanced so we get to CRT bad...

This descendant of slaves is right of course. How long do we really want to keep racism alive?

They flip out all of the time about this in the town I live in. They go to the school board meetings and complain, etc... And they don't even teach CRT in our district. It's incredible to me just how stupid people are.

These threads are cute because everyone leans to their own unexpressed, amorphous and vague definition of what they want CRT to mean.

Critics of CRT aren't saying that slavery and discrimination didn't have an affect on the black population in the US, obviously it did have a detrimental effect on wealth and wellbeing of black people, but it's not the only factor as proponents of CRT assert. "Systemic racism" is only a surface-level issue within the CRT framework. I'll tell you why you don't know what you're talking about and are being sold a false bill of goods when it comes to CRT.

The real meat of CRT is that, according to CRT, whites are the dominant racial class, therefor all systems and institutions created by the white powerholders were designed to keep whites in power and suppress members of all other races (conveniently, nobody ever applies this theory to other racially homogenous countries where whites aren't in "power," I wonder why?). These systems and institutions make up what is known as "Whiteness" and are what is responsible for the disparate outcomes and power imbalances between whites and all other races. All who operate and benefit from Whiteness are inherently racist (yes, even black people) even if they are not being consciously or overtly racist. As the theory goes, the only way to "dismantle" Whiteness is for a coalition of non-whites to get into power and remake all the laws and recreate all the systems in such a way that all groups share power and have equitable results in a multicultural society - critical race theorists never explain what their utopian vision would look like or how to get there, but it sounds nice on paper and is simple enough for the angry and idiotic masses to get behind.

That's what CRT actually is, and again, none of it is ever factually proven mainly because it wasn't developed out of real scientific observation, rather it was just a bunch of ideas that some dead white guys pulled out of their asses 100 years ago and wrote in some books. All CRT is is Marxism 2.0 - otherwise known as "neomarxism" or "cultural marxism" - after Marxism was proven to be an absolute crapshoot of a theory. Instead of "rich vs poor" it's "white people vs all other races."

At this point it should be glaringly obvious why this shouldn't be taught to impressionable kids who don't know any better. This THEORY intentionally creates racial divisiveness, tells non-white kids they will forever be oppressed and that all who are successful should feel guilty. Real nice.

Think I'm wrong or want to learn more? This guy offers a good crash course on the subject, which is cited in real time on video with quotes from CRT books.

Let it Rupp wrote:

a high school teacher/coach wrote:

You mean should they be taught an accurate account of American History? Yes.

I agree. What does that have to do with CRT?

The teacher's unions have absolutely deluded themselves into believing CRT is about teaching history. They have no idea what it really is or what the goal of CRT's original proponents were, but all the useful idiots have followed along because everyone around them says it's good. So dangerous.

I don't know what it is either and couldn't possibly care less. Let's cut to the chase. Do people on the right think their kids will be turned against them?

Is the following not a reasonable response?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqaBuFtigQ

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

I agree. What does that have to do with CRT?

The teacher's unions have absolutely deluded themselves into believing CRT is about teaching history. They have no idea what it really is or what the goal of CRT's original proponents were, but all the useful idiots have followed along because everyone around them says it's good. So dangerous.

I don't know what it is either and couldn't possibly care less. Let's cut to the chase. Do people on the right think their kids will be turned against them?

Are you asking this as someone who has kids?

Let it Rupp wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I don't know what it is either and couldn't possibly care less. Let's cut to the chase. Do people on the right think their kids will be turned against them?

Are you asking this as someone who has kids?

Wait, I can't believe I even validated your idiotic response with a response. No, avoiding fights at the dinner table is not the only reason "people on the right" (I think you actually mean people with an ounce of common sense) don't want their kids, or any other kids, being radicalized into the racist cult of critical race theorists.

Critical Race theory is taught in law school. If your kids aren't in law school, they're not learning critical race theory.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

I agree. What does that have to do with CRT?

The teacher's unions have absolutely deluded themselves into believing CRT is about teaching history. They have no idea what it really is or what the goal of CRT's original proponents were, but all the useful idiots have followed along because everyone around them says it's good. So dangerous.

I don't know what it is either and couldn't possibly care less. Let's cut to the chase. Do people on the right think their kids will be turned against them?

You are in a thread regarding a concept you admit ignorance of, yet you decided it's reasonable to ask an idiotic, glib question as to whether people are worried their kids will turn against them regarding the very concept you admit ignorance of. WTF is wrong with you? You are about as relevant to most threads as that Unkle guy.

The gist of Kenny Xu's An Inconvenient Minority is that Asian-American success disproves Critical Race Theory:

https://www.amazon.com/Inconvenient-Minority-Admissions-American-Excellence/dp/1635767563/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=kenny+xu&qid=1634536773&sr=8-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2esl0yVFXE

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There has already been an extensive thread on this subject. How to revive discussion on a subject where discussion had been exhausted. So who would be motivated to do that? The Right clearly isn't done with their bogeyman...