Flagpole wrote:
1) I am NEVER offended by comedians. There should really only be two reactions to comedians - funny or not funny. ....
I disagree. Completely.
I do think we need to give artists some room that we don't give people in other contexts. Comics, musicians, writers, poets, painters .. in their work, i absolutely think they get a pass for things that we do well to otherwise not say/express. Sure.
But the fact that something is "funny" doesn't warrant a pass. For the artist OR the audience.
We've all laughed at something at one time or another that in hindsight, we see really wasn't funny or that we only felit it was funny becuae of some underlying position we held at that time. And often times those underlying positions need work and redirection.
I'm sure thousands of people laughed at some pretty horrifically racist sh** in the past and they genuinely "felt" it as funny. but it's only funny if you think the people being mocked were of no value and worth mocking.
Where it becomes a difficult thing fo rus as a society to navigate is
a) with social media we don't really know what's "on stage" and what's just general public discourse any more. Thats a blurred line and we haven't yet figured out how to reconcile that, and
b) looking back. We can easily sit in judgement ove some sh** someone said or did 10, 20, 30 - 50 years ago .. or further, and then decide we should ask for our pound of flesh today. And that's difficult to do. It's so contextual and there are so many variables .. has the artist taken their own pound of flesh, for example, and apologized, sincerely, and acknowledged where they misstepped? etc, etc, etc.
But no .. the reaction to a comic need not only be "funny or not funny" at all.