Yes, cause pep talks to completely change one"s unhealthy lifestyle always works in America. We can't even get people to get a simple vaccine!
And it's a great myth that ONLY old, unhealthy people have died or suffered a lot from covid. Sure, that's definitely the large majority, but plenty of young or youngish, fairly healthy people have been hospitalized or died from covid. Yes 1000's . Quercetin or "high quality ionic iodine" [ lol] would have done nothing for them.
wake up now wrote:
Good to hear many are now seeing this is all a money making scam. Kids in California will be dying in record numbers now thanks to these insane mandates. More need to wake up. California is a mess. I got fired thanks to Newsom🖕🖕
Doctors and others who are enabling this scam can burn in hell.
Lol! It's awesome you got fired! [ but your prob lying of course]
I'll bite: why will "Kids in California ... be dying in record numbers now thanks to these insane mandates" ? CO2 poisoning? Suicides due to mask-sadness? Vaccine side effects?
What exactly?
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In the past week Mississippi (and Florida) went from the most cases in the country to the least, with both not increasing vaccines. Mississippi has the least vaccines in the country.
I suspect somebody along the chain of information gathering is lying.
Losing weight would save millions more lives than getting a vaccine. Most causes of death are related to weight including Covid.
troll_69 wrote:
Desantis the GOAT wrote:
Meanwhile, in the Northeast, the Cult of the Mask remains firmly in control…
And it only cost them tens of thousands of deaths and hospitalizations. What a success story
Because pea brains like you fall for their false numbers. Please keep it up, they are counting on the big herd of sheep to continue following.
Yeah Cops who think the rules don't apply to them? Great idea..
Cross Country Runner wrote:
In the past week Mississippi (and Florida) went from the most cases in the country to the least, .
not true.
Try another lie
This is why "let it rip" herd immunity will never work. COVID only spreads via person to person contact. It does not spread via fomites. COVID can only reach so many people via large gatherings, etc. before it starts to run out of people who either lack immunity or have waning immunity. Once the easy path to spreading is lost, the R0 goes below 1 and the number of infections quickly recedes. In other words, COVID, even the Delta variant, is just not good enough at spreading to infect enough people in a single surge to reach herd immunity. And that is also part of why the virus is so successful. It always leaves behind some fresh timber to burn and allows some new timber to grow back before a new wave rages like a forest fire.
So, the issue now is really whether you want to have a huge forest fire or a small one. The high vax states that do a lot of masking, etc. consistently had much smaller Delta waves with far fewer hospitalizations and deaths. The let it rip states had massive waves with near failures of the entire health system. And this is all without achieving the benefit of herd immunity. COVID will probably be back again this winter and there will again be massive surges because there are still millions who are immune naïve.
coach wrote:
troll_69 wrote:
And it only cost them tens of thousands of deaths and hospitalizations. What a success story
Florida has had more deaths than New York.
It has an older population and more people than New York. Less deaths per capita than New York.
If you adjust for age, which you should do since Covid has a wildly different death rate per age, Florida's deaths per capita are very similar to California. For example, if you look at deaths per capita in 80-90 age range, 70-80 range, under 70 Florida's numbers are almost identical to California. But if you are over 80 and get Covid, pre-vaccine, you had a 4-5% chance of dying where if you are 40 it's something less than 1 in 1,000. Since Florida has significantly more older people than most states due to it being a retirement hub it would be expected for a disease that is primarily deadly to the elderly to kill more people there. But that does not fit with the Death Santis narrative.
Dr. of Nothing wrote:
Losing weight would save millions more lives than getting a vaccine. Most causes of death are related to weight including Covid.
No politician will ever even breathe the word "obesity" as it would be their political death. Much like the avoidance of mentioning prior infection immunity (which by CDC's own estimates is now well above 200 million). Much better political hate game to demonize the "Heathen Unvaxxers" instead.
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
coach wrote:
Florida has had more deaths than New York.
It has an older population and more people than New York. Less deaths per capita than New York.
If you adjust for age, which you should do since Covid has a wildly different death rate per age, Florida's deaths per capita are very similar to California. For example, if you look at deaths per capita in 80-90 age range, 70-80 range, under 70 Florida's numbers are almost identical to California. But if you are over 80 and get Covid, pre-vaccine, you had a 4-5% chance of dying where if you are 40 it's something less than 1 in 1,000. Since Florida has significantly more older people than most states due to it being a retirement hub it would be expected for a disease that is primarily deadly to the elderly to kill more people there. But that does not fit with the Death Santis narrative.
New York was hit hard and early because of mistakes and lack of knowledge. Florida could have learned from NY's mistakes and protected its elderly better. I understand it did a decent job but should have known better and done better. I know they're old and are going to die soon anyway so their deaths are no big deal.
Crimea River wrote:
. . . prior infection immunity (which by CDC's own estimates is now well above 200 million).
No snark here, I would love to get a link for that. Haven't found one so far but would be *really* interested to get one.
troll-69 wrote:
troll_69 wrote:
And it only cost them tens of thousands of deaths and hospitalizations. What a success story
Because pea brains like you fall for their false numbers. Please keep it up, they are counting on the big herd of sheep to continue following.
Lol. You think you're being contrarian and have insight into something that the vast majority of the population and medical officials and experts are supposedly missing. yet you're the exact kind of dolt antivaxxer and covid-denier grifters make money off of. Your lack of self-awareness is amusing.
kibitzer wrote:
Crimea River wrote:
. . . prior infection immunity (which by CDC's own estimates is now well above 200 million).
No snark here, I would love to get a link for that. Haven't found one so far but would be *really* interested to get one.
I haven't been able to find that figure anywhere. The only way I can see him coming up with that is he assumed an infection fatality rate of around ~0.35% for COVID and then simply divided 736,000 by it to derive that estimated case count. That would still be a significant overestimate of the true number of infections.
coach wrote:
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
It has an older population and more people than New York. Less deaths per capita than New York.
If you adjust for age, which you should do since Covid has a wildly different death rate per age, Florida's deaths per capita are very similar to California. For example, if you look at deaths per capita in 80-90 age range, 70-80 range, under 70 Florida's numbers are almost identical to California. But if you are over 80 and get Covid, pre-vaccine, you had a 4-5% chance of dying where if you are 40 it's something less than 1 in 1,000. Since Florida has significantly more older people than most states due to it being a retirement hub it would be expected for a disease that is primarily deadly to the elderly to kill more people there. But that does not fit with the Death Santis narrative.
New York was hit hard and early because of mistakes and lack of knowledge. Florida could have learned from NY's mistakes and protected its elderly better. I understand it did a decent job but should have known better and done better. I know they're old and are going to die soon anyway so their deaths are no big deal.
No, at the point in the pandemic where many of the people in Florida died everyone knew what Covid was and wasn't. At that point, it was no longer the governor or any other public health official's responsibility to manage people's lives. Most of Florida's deaths came after June of 2020 and a huge percentage came after June of 2021 once everyone had the chance to get the vaccine. De Santis did what is right in a free society, not to mention guaranteed by the first amended freedom of assembly, and let people decide for themselves what risk they were willing to take. It is not a politician's job to tell people what their risk tolerance should be. Give people the facts and let them decide how they want to behave if an 80-year-old wants to risk themselves by going out socially without the vaccine that is on them. People have the capacity to make decisions in their best interest way better than politicians.
troll_69 wrote:
troll-69 wrote:
Because pea brains like you fall for their false numbers. Please keep it up, they are counting on the big herd of sheep to continue following.
Lol. You think you're being contrarian and have insight into something that the vast majority of the population and medical officials and experts are supposedly missing. yet you're the exact kind of dolt antivaxxer and covid-denier grifters make money off of. Your lack of self-awareness is amusing.
You are such a submissive, obedient sheep...
Wuzzle Wuzzle3 wrote:
Cross Country Runner wrote:
In the past week Mississippi (and Florida) went from the most cases in the country to the least.
not true. Try another lie
That's what the New York Times answered: cases go up and down at random. I do believe cases have something to do with vaccines: there have been studies before the vaccines were approved; there have been statistics gathered after that.
DeSantis the GOAT wrote:
surveysays wrote:
Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are great at making arguments for vaccines and masks while they think they are doing the opposite.
Vaccines are great. Masks are stupid.
Correct! Check out this article and picture from an event in Gainesville, FL, liberal hot spot. The lady with no mask is the school board chair. She has bad mouthed DeSantis consistently and voted to REQUIRE masks for all students with no opt-outs. She said it is important and they should require masks until June.
Masks worn incorrectly are useless. Most do it to satisfy rules and don't wear them right. Others know it's stupid and won't comply when they think nobody is looking but they can't go against the political flow.
Please, if your doctor says it's OK for you, get the vaccine. If not, OK. You assume certain risks. I assume certain risks if I get it! Make a choice and live your life. Stop with the mask BS. It is a control / political tactic.
https://alachuachronicle.com/school-board-chair-leanetta-mcnealy-goes-maskless-at-the-price-is-right/Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these