sepreh wrote:
Want. Buy. Have.
Fatter and fatter.
This is true
sepreh wrote:
Want. Buy. Have.
Fatter and fatter.
This is true
It actually is, and very well-documented. I'll link a few articles.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/81/6/1286/4648747?login=true
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5749/j.ctv9b2tqv
^ you probably have to pay to access this one but there's a good graph of basal metabolic rate in response to starvation on page 329
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/obr.12253
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/65/3/717/4655278?login=true
A big thing in this field of study is that the longer/more frequent the restriction, the longer it takes for metabolism/other physiological systems to recover. For example, if someone has a restrictive eating disorder for a year, it may take a year to fully restore weight, and in that period we would expect to see an overshoot weight - the patient gaining more weight than was normal for them before the onset of their eating disorder. As the body learns that they no longer have to be preparing for scarcity, it will metabolize food more quickly.
So if you were engaged in restriction for a relatively short period of time, you could recover fully with perhaps a brief overshoot period. But for many fat people, they've been on extremely restrictive diets several times a year for their entire adult life - the impact is more severe.
This subway commercial would be removed from the air after nation wide protest if active today:
sayyestonepotism wrote:
Visiting the usa is always interesting coming from europe. So many extremly fat people. People are overweight in europe as well but the amount of absolute land whales in the usa is crazy. I also really enjoy being in usa. I am feeling like 3 times attractive in the usa compared to for example italy
You are not wrong. I spent a month in the EU in a few countries and it was shocking getting back to the USA. Even walking into the terminal in Paris with all the flights going to the USA.. people seemingly doubled in size. I'm "skinny" by American standards, but I was definitely aware in Europe that I could lose 10~15lbs pretty easily.
And it's not a problem with carbs. It's a lifestyle choice.
Big business and Big Pharma control the media.
Big Pharma wants ill people.
Tell people to eat healthy and exercise? They don’t need vaccines and medicines.
Have fat people who are unhealthy? They need meds and can be convinced they need vaccines.
Occam’s Razor!
Embracing overweight people?
I just can't get my head, or arms really, around that.
Fat and lazy people are easier to control with drugs and cheap crappy food.
Fit and healthy people with a little bit of agency are the enemy of the leftist control freaks.
uhmmmm wrote:
Embracing overweight people?
I just can't get my head, or arms really, around that.
Overweight people are dragging down society. They are also themselves mentally weighed down by it. They really need to lighten up and get over weight.
I’ve been saying for years that eating salad meals makes you fatter. Want proof? Look at all the folks eating salad meals at a food place.
Lol, 10/10
The whales at work always show up w a side salad or veggies and rice super portion controlled for lunch. Come on. Who you kidding? We know you grubbing that big bucket of fried chicken on the way home. Why you frontin
Vacilated wrote:
https://youtu.be/69KdNrNn1F0
But she's a dancer now, so all is good.
That Aidy Bryant Old Navy ad makes no sense to me. She’s confused and surprised that people are dancing and then starts dancing with them. The fact that she is fat is clearly in your face. Is there any point besides that?
Guess I’m not their target demographic, so whatever.
What's worse, fat-shaming or fit-shaming?
oboist wrote:
That Aidy Bryant Old Navy ad makes no sense to me. She’s confused and surprised that people are dancing and then starts dancing with them. The fact that she is fat is clearly in your face. Is there any point besides that?
Guess I’m not their target demographic, so whatever.
I suppose Old Navy is saying that it accommodates dreadnaughts as well as sleek torpedo boats.
oboist wrote:
Not embracing obesity, rather advertising is just using normal BMI women more (like it has always done men), not just sickly thin girls that poorly represent women at large (punintended).
Uhh... do you live in a cave?? They are absolutely promoting obesity...
SocialismIsForIdiots wrote:
oboist wrote:
Not embracing obesity, rather advertising is just using normal BMI women more (like it has always done men), not just sickly thin girls that poorly represent women at large (punintended).
Uhh... do you live in a cave?? They are absolutely promoting obesity...
I don’t know of anyone promoting “obesity”. If you are talking about the Old Navy ad, they have a variety of sizes of almost all normal BMI range women. I don’t know Bryant’s BMI, but based on Googling, it appears to be at the top end of Overweight, not Obese. Based on things she has said on her show, she is healthy and eats healthy and exercises.
In any case, these BMI ranges also are not sacrosanct. By the recommended ranges, I’ve been underweight for many years now, but obviously don’t give a damn because I feel fine.
I don’t like the Old Navy ad at all, but their apparent message — accepting heavy people as normal — is not the same as promoting obesity or even encouraging people to get heavier, just accepting the real world as it is and not making fat people feel ashamed. There’s a difference.
So, I'm not for fat acceptance...but.....
I think the goal that most people have is to be healthy. I am not at all denying the fact that obese people are not healthy. It's quite simple. But then the question is; how do obese people get to a place where they can be physically healthy---because shame does not work.
For years we have scammed people with BS fad diets and shamed obese people. How can you feel good enough about yourself to lose weight in a sustainable meaningful way when you also have to carry the constant shame whenever you go shopping, to the grocery store, to the doctor's office, any beyond? People who feel shame get more depressed and when they get more depressed they are less motivated to lose weight and be healthier. Now yes, you tough anonymous lets runners--this all appears soft. But like it or not...it's true.
I think a lot of the body positivity comes from the idea that people just don't have to feel tons of shame all the time for being obese. It doesn't negate facts about their overall health. All the heavy people I know are incredibly self aware of their weight. They talk about it, and it is on their minds all the time. And yet, very few have lost the weight and successfully kept it off.
So perhaps its not so much fat acceptance it's that skinny people, stop acting smug while disguising it as concern? It's not our business what anyone's body looks like, and we don't need to remind obese people of things they are already aware of. And maybe, it helps no one to make people feel even worse about themselves.
Vacilated wrote:
FredFlintstone wrote:
All these fat people are raising the sea level. It isn't global warming that's doing it.
I like the way you think! The chubby are actually sinking the continent, in effect, make the sea level rise.
So much of the commentary on this thread, like too much of LRC, is appalling. It's honestly astonishing that the mods allow it. if similar comments were made towards various other people the entire thread would long ago have ben removed. But for some reason punching down on overweight people sems perfectly acceptable here.
Not one person on the thread has mentioned the correlation between obesity and childhood trauma. Not one.
You simply don't know what you're talking about.
So many of you think "the fatties" and "land whales" are just lazy and choosing to not do the work, blah blah blah.
F**k you. Every single one of you.
I've seen grown men in tears talking about how hard it is for them to lose weight, to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and how bad they feel about it. And you smugly sit at your keyboard and sh*t all over them.
Shaming? People typically overeat (or engage any addictive behavior) in an endeavour to feel good, hoping to find some relief from feeling bad about some other thing. That's essentially what addictive behavior is.
On what planet do you imagine that making them feel BAD is then going to improve their lot?