Molly Huddle calls out misogyny on letsrun.

high school xc coach wrote:

You are all a bunch of wankers hanging out in your mom's basemen wrote:

Hillary Bor? Molly looks nothing like him!

Someone responding to Molly's post on Twitter. This person nails it:

https://twitter.com/Badgergrrrl/status/1448011014436425728

lol@ this. if we want to be real, there are plenty of boys who couldn't crack their d1 top 7 that would wipe the floor with the very best females the US has ever offered. This is weak smack talk.

Jamin, of all people, would be an olympic medalist if he was female.

No, he wouldn't. With the same level of talent relative to the field he competed in, he'd still be a nobody in the sport. Like 99.9% percent of us reading this board.

Molly's right. Everyone knows it. Somebody said it further up. Such a shame that's it still the best place for distance running news and discussion when you have to wade through so much bile to find the interesting bits.

It's a completely foreign concept to you that mods don't have all the energy to police the boards and that the site doesn't have the revenue to do more? If you want you can donate money and maybe they can afford more mods but I'm prepared to accept the economic reality.

I certainly don't think a platform is defined by the worst people who use it or that the site's overall utility is worth the price of some bad posts.

I used to post at IMDB and it gave me great joy over the years to be part of that community. When the site disabled their forums (partially, I suspect, because of the costs of policing), it has been really difficult to find a replacement. I can honestly say I've never found a place like it so it's been difficult

She is nerdy

The post she was referring to was in reference to the USWNT scandal. And while the post from the individual was poorly worded, it just address a legitimate concern of coaches. I coached competitive girls soccer for a number of years, and it was a great experience to spend that time with my daughters. That being said, I’m glad I’m done (I put them on a premiere level team and hung up my whistle and now just run around the complex while they practice).

Coaching soccer as a man at older ages is stressful because not only are you having to coach a team, but you have to worry about allegations (at this point the USWNT scandal is just that) and managing the politics of a team sport (every parent believes their kid is the best and girls don’t want to hear that another player deserves to play ahead of them). The beauty of track and field and XC is there are almost no politics, only the clock. I have seen coaches lives torn asunder by allegations with no due process. I have seen others that were legitimate creeps who have gotten the punishment they deserve. As a parent of girls, I hope that I can tell the difference.

A very wise man once said, "Everything woke turns to sh*t." He is right. Btw, does Molly ever smile? She gives off a vibe of having no joy in her life. Maybe the baby will change that. Will the little one take her last name or hubby's?

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

A very wise man once said, "Everything woke turns to sh*t." He is right. Btw, does Molly ever smile? She gives off a vibe of having no joy in her life. Maybe the baby will change that. Will the little one take her last name or hubby's?

Not all liberals are like this (some have a sense of humor) but some (young and old) can be very joyless. The world's not going to end tomorrow.

Conservatives are more easy-going, in my experience, and laid-back. (Some of the older ones are uptight as the liberals though).

plant pot wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

lol@ this. if we want to be real, there are plenty of boys who couldn't crack their d1 top 7 that would wipe the floor with the very best females the US has ever offered. This is weak smack talk.

Jamin, of all people, would be an olympic medalist if he was female.

No, he wouldn't. With the same level of talent relative to the field he competed in, he'd still be a nobody in the sport. Like 99.9% percent of us reading this board.

Molly's right. Everyone knows it. Somebody said it further up. Such a shame that's it still the best place for distance running news and discussion when you have to wade through so much bile to find the interesting bits.

FYI, I never made the Varsity Team, came close though, and I am one of those people who never go a D1 scholarship.

My apologies.

Lots of Billy Betas out there to play Sir Lancelot or Sir Galahad for m'lady.

lift laugh love <3 wrote:

Lots of Billy Betas out there to play Sir Lancelot or Sir Galahad for m'lady.

Another Level wrote:

I feel like some people just don’t get the joke. Or maybe they don’t understand that people post things for a reaction not because they are serious.

Oh, we understand. It's just that we also understand that nobody would "joke" about or "try to get a reaction" by saying sexist crap unless they don't understand and/or care about systemic sexism.

Why do people always assume others don't KNOW something was a joke? Everyone knows. It's just that what you're excited to joke about for attention reveals values.

Light the blue touch paper wrote:

jabouko wrote:

This place is a cesspool of abuse, racism, and misogyny. Trolling is one thing -- shaming athletes, using offensive language, or simply regurgitating content from /pol/ or /b/ are patterns of behavior that are reminiscent of the darker corners of the internet.

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+1 - LRC is a toxic in every respect:

- lots of feintly veiled racism.

- lots of misgony - e.g. most of this thread.

- lots of abuse

Little evidence, little logic, zero understanding of science, little understanding or consideration of the views of others. And on the part of LRC, zero moderation from people with ethics, morals or an understanding of what is reasonable in life.

The bottom of the gutter for sure and a large problem of what is wrong in the world.

I used to come on here on occasion in high school (back in the very early days of LetsRun), and as a young female runner, it horrified me. I've been very unsurprised on my recent return to see how little has changed. Insecure cross country boys apparently grow up to stay insecure cross country boys. What's especially funny is how much it bothers them that most of the people faster than them don't share their narrow, hateful views on the world.

RT is now covering this story (***trigger warning for Molly Huddle and similar - don't read the comments. Whatever you do, don't read the comments).

https://www.rt.com/sport/537392-mary-cain-nike-alberto-salazar-lawsuit/

Misogyny and racism aren't outliers on LetsRun, though - they're frequent themes. Anyone who has been on here regularly (or even just been a person in the running world for more than 5 minutes) knows this, if they actually care about these issues.

Twitter isn't a running-specific platform, so the comparison isn't relevant. And the running community - especially pro runners - on Twitter is not more racist, misogynist, etc., than LetsRun. Even if it were equally as gross, it wouldn't make this place more excusable.

Dew wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Shockingly, most people aren't openly prejudiced and spiteful of others. This appears to be a surprise to you.

Shockingly, you are openly prejudiced and spiteful of others. This appears to be a surprise to you.

Oh, come on. Being openly spiteful toward misogyny - and people's choice to minimize or defend it - isn't being openly spiteful of people.

If your ideas are racist, sexist, and/or homophobic, they're not correct. And they don't have basis. If they're not any of these things, I'm not sure why you're worried that Molly Huddle would criticize them.