U of Texas: does anyone do less with opportunity?

ATX Gordough wrote:

With the amount of money and backing pumped into the university athletic department, how can they be so mediocre? The underperformance is staggering.

XC? Football? Track? Basketball?

Yep, all of them.

Too many top schools recruit Texas talent away. NCAA schools should only be able to recruit inside their state lines. That'd fix things.

Plenty of talent in Texas to keep their own. Most kids grow up Texas or Texas A&M fans except in west Texas and they can be convinced to go to school in Austin. There is no excuse for them to be so bad. It is likely poor management, arrogance and basically getting outworked.

It will be interesting to see if the men's T&F team can show better than previous years, decades. I've long thought it is the most underachieving program in the NCAA.

The next most underachieving program is University of Houston women's T&F, and the men aren't far behind, but are better.

Dumb and dumber wrote:

Plenty of talent in Texas to keep their own. Most kids grow up Texas or Texas A&M fans except in west Texas and they can be convinced to go to school in Austin. There is no excuse for them to be so bad. It is likely poor management, arrogance and basically getting outworked.

That doesn't really make sense. The best players leave Texas. Therefore, there is not plenty of talent in Texas. It's gone to Alabama, Clemson, OU, and Ohio State. Texas is left competing for players with offers from Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU. I'd go to TCU.

Texas has really only remained competitive of late because they have players with family ties to UT from when it was a decent program. That isn't going to last much longer.

brien evans wrote:

ATX Gordough wrote:

With the amount of money and backing pumped into the university athletic department, how can they be so mediocre? The underperformance is staggering.

XC? Football? Track? Basketball?

Yep, all of them.

Too many top schools recruit Texas talent away. NCAA schools should only be able to recruit inside their state lines. That'd fix things.

You're going to force kids to have to go to school in-state? This is one of the dumber suggestions I've seen on here.

purpleonion wrote:

brien evans wrote:

Too many top schools recruit Texas talent away. NCAA schools should only be able to recruit inside their state lines. That'd fix things.

You're going to force kids to have to go to school in-state? This is one of the dumber suggestions I've seen on here.

Hi. Did you recently learn how to read? Where did I say kids have to go to school in their own state? Coaches recruiting != Kids going to school.

I think the football program is on the right track with Sark as the head coach as he has always been an awesome recruiter and does have a great football mind. Give them another year or so and they'll be top 5. The last 2 guys, Hermans and Strong , were in way over their heads.

brien evans wrote:

purpleonion wrote:

You're going to force kids to have to go to school in-state? This is one of the dumber suggestions I've seen on here.

Hi. Did you recently learn how to read? Where did I say kids have to go to school in their own state? Coaches recruiting != Kids going to school.

So if an 8:50 guy lives in Wyoming only the University of Wyoming coach is allowed to recruit him?

qazwsxedc wrote:

brien evans wrote:

Hi. Did you recently learn how to read? Where did I say kids have to go to school in their own state? Coaches recruiting != Kids going to school.

So if an 8:50 guy lives in Wyoming only the University of Wyoming coach is allowed to recruit him?

That is correct. Same goes for Kenyan runners and Eastern European tennis players.

Texas has never been known as a cross country powerhouse school. The distance athletes will show up on track! Why are we judging the new football and basketball coaches performance? It's only their 1st season at Texas. Let's see if they're able to recruit well in the very near future. However, it's imperative that Coach Flo and staff are able to recruit many of the best in the nation and elsewhere next month. I really do see a big shift in the landscape when it comes to the University of Texas sports.

brien evans wrote:

qazwsxedc wrote:

So if an 8:50 guy lives in Wyoming only the University of Wyoming coach is allowed to recruit him?

That is correct. Same goes for Kenyan runners and Eastern European tennis players.

Equally as dumb. Might as well take it a step further and say you can only go to the closest college near you! Only the community college in your town can recruit you so that the talent in your town doesn't go to some other city in your state!

If other colleges weren't allowed to recruit, then there's no incentive to do a good job building up a team, building facilities, doing anything good for the sport that would attract athletes since all of your state's athletes have to go to you.

Check back in a few years after UT joins the SEC. That has been the primary problem with UT of late. TAMU has soaked up more talent since they moved to the SEC. Since UT won in 2005, every college football champion has come from the SEC save and except for OSU in 2014.

The other problem at UT is that no one has been able to fill Mac Brown's shoes. Sarkisian may be the guy to build UT into a top SEC team. UT is still a rebuilding team and will need a few years before anyone can reasonably expect a championship run.

Precious Roy wrote:

Check back in a few years after UT joins the SEC. That has been the primary problem with UT of late. TAMU has soaked up more talent since they moved to the SEC. Since UT won in 2005, every college football champion has come from the SEC save and except for OSU in 2014.

The other problem at UT is that no one has been able to fill Mac Brown's shoes. Sarkisian may be the guy to build UT into a top SEC team. UT is still a rebuilding team and will need a few years before anyone can reasonably expect a championship run.

It's going to get worse. Nobody will want to go to SEC's new Vanderbilt.

Their problem is they recruit the best 16 year olds in the country. They're all maxed out by the time they get there. Everyone has known they have a scholarship for two years and you don't have that grinder inferiority complex mentally. They're always good and look great in a uniform but they just don't have that dog mentality.

Can't imagine they really have any issues recruiting to Austin (one of the most desirable cities in America), playing in front of lots of fans in beautiful facilities with all the resources in the world.

Throwers at Texas seem to be doing just fine...

1. Everything is bigger in Texas

2. Texans tend to be overconfident and underqualified (see: Texas governors this century as well as this site's co-founders)

Precious Roy wrote:

The other problem at UT is that no one has been able to fill Mac Brown's shoes.

The REAL problem is the UT boosters forced Brown out and there was no plan beyond that, so they had to do the same to his successors. I'll be surprised if Sark ever wins a divisional title in the SEC while at UT, that AD is a monkey house.

stan the corgi wrote:

I think the football program is on the right track with Sark as the head coach as he has always been an awesome recruiter and does have a great football mind. Give them another year or so and they'll be top 5. The last 2 guys, Hermans and Strong , were in way over their heads.

LOLs . How'd he do at USC with all the Cali talent in the weak Pac-10?

Jose Garza wrote:

stan the corgi wrote:

I think the football program is on the right track with Sark as the head coach as he has always been an awesome recruiter and does have a great football mind. Give them another year or so and they'll be top 5. The last 2 guys, Hermans and Strong , were in way over their heads.

LOLs . How'd he do at USC with all the Cali talent in the weak Pac-10?

Or UW?