Dang. No wonder her running sucks. Even Rupp throws back some wine with his wife, same with Kipchoge. Remember Grete Waitz pre-race meal of steak and wine? Maybe Gwen simply has an addictive composition?
Dang. No wonder her running sucks. Even Rupp throws back some wine with his wife, same with Kipchoge. Remember Grete Waitz pre-race meal of steak and wine? Maybe Gwen simply has an addictive composition?
Yeah this is dumb. Sobriety tourism? Why don’t you try heroin for a few days and then kick that to pad your content schedule
Wolten wrote:
Dang. No wonder her running sucks. Even Rupp throws back some wine with his wife, same with Kipchoge. Remember Grete Waitz pre-race meal of steak and wine? Maybe Gwen simply has an addictive composition?
You should have thought first, posted later! Every drink of alcohol increases risk of cancer. Ms. Waitz died young from cancer. Your example was awful.
Wow. Seriously, you are worried about cancer when drinking wine? Ouch. Spend some time in Italy, Greece, Israel, Japan pretty low cancer rates with high alcohol consumption. You are conflating things.
runners don't need to drink2 wrote:
Wolten wrote:
Dang. No wonder her running sucks. Even Rupp throws back some wine with his wife, same with Kipchoge. Remember Grete Waitz pre-race meal of steak and wine? Maybe Gwen simply has an addictive composition?
You should have thought first, posted later! Every drink of alcohol increases risk of cancer. Ms. Waitz died young from cancer. Your example was awful.
This thread is specifically discussing the drinking or now not drinking habits of females. It is a fact that women, even if drinking only two or three drinks a day have a measurable increase in risk of cancer. You can attempt glamorize drinking wine if you like but cancer risk is not measurably different from consuming P.B.R. or other alcohol.
Congratulations, Gwen. I just celebrated another year without taking any heroin. It was easy. Yup, that marks my entire life heroin free. Beat you.
I can beat Gwen in a 5k/10k and not taking things I've never been addicted to. I should get a sponsor and get some loser to cook all my food.
Gwen's very successful and happy athletic and personal lifestyle seems to attract a lot of bitter jealous commenters.
Lol. This thread sounds like a bunch of snowflakes complaining about cultural appropriation.
I ragart nothing wrote:
BrainCell wrote:
At this point she really is struggling for content. As someone who had a family member end their own life due to problems that arose from abusing alcohol - I fail to see why anyone would celebrate this video/'accomplishment', if the person in question never had an alcohol problem. You're not '1 year sober', you just chose other drinks. Not to mention we are talking about someone who was a pro athlete and so would naturally be drinking less than the average person anyway.
Once again, Gwen puts out more painfully self-indulgent content.
P: "How was that for you?"
G: "It was easy"
As a recovering alcoholic who has been sober for 10 years, I actually am offended by this. If giving up alcohol is "easy" then you don't have a problem with it. So incredibly tone deaf, Gwen.
THIS IS ALL JAMIN'S WORDING. It's like fake news. He's the one who's using "sobriety" and "1-year coin" like they are recovering alcoholics. Gwen's just saying she did a wellness thing, like dry January but over the course of a year. I cannot believe how everyone falls into line with attacking her without even checking out the video or even the title of the video.
It's pretty sad that the fixation on picking on female athletes runs so deep here, this was the 2nd most trafficked thread while the CHI marathon is on. Emma Bates is getting a lot of love now, at the expense of Sara Hall, but once she has more success and is given any kind of spotlight, people will turn on her too.
Wolten wrote:
Spend some time in Italy, Greece, Israel, Japan pretty low cancer rates with high alcohol consumption.
What are you talking about? Here's where those countries rank for alcohol consumption:
Israel: #124
Italty: #79
Japan: #71
Greece: #36
holterskolter2 wrote:
Also, I hate this sobercurious thing. It really makes it seem like sobriety is something to "try out" on a lark, some casual thing. But for alcoholics, it is a serious undertaking that might save their life, their relationships, financial well being, etc after a pattern of destructive behavior.
Yea, they giggle about how they used to enjoy a glass of champagne once in a while to celebrate, how they'd sometimes split a $200 bottle of wine with their hoity-toity friends, how they miss visiting vineyards.
Great stuff Jamin.
I just don't drink alcohol.
Very bizarre from my vantage view
Athletic life style and alcoholic ?
I did not follow that , but if she eas trying to get to the olympics and was drinking ?
Or she just stopped having a beer or a glass of wine from time to time to become a teetotaler .
To dupport her husband.
BTW I watched her American tour to find a new city.
Their decision was his decision.
He totally disregarded her opinion, even if she was voicing it.
It was his decision.
But again this show off one year sobriety,
As she was guzzling a quart of beer or wine every night as she was training as a top athlete.
I would have loved to see Rono do this, he had a real alcohol problem after his career ended.
I wish her the best for her"influencer" career
And the rest of their life
How much do you drink?
I admit I have not watched the video ( and do not plan to), but as someone very familiar with Alcoholics Anonymous I can say that each individual defines what level of alcohol consumption is a problem for them.
There are people in AA that believe one drink every few days was problematic, while others believe one drink every hour was a problem. AA welcomes anyone who believes drinking any amount of alcohol is problematic for them, and everyone who participates in AA is treated equally no matter what their previous level of alcohol consumption was.
runners don't need to drink2 wrote:
This thread is specifically discussing the drinking or now not drinking habits of females. It is a fact that women, even if drinking only two or three drinks a day have a measurable increase in risk of cancer. You can attempt glamorize drinking wine if you like but cancer risk is not measurably different from consuming P.B.R. or other alcohol.
Alcohol has an immensely positive impact on women’s health and all cause mortality risks when consumed in moderation vs abstinence. A woman is more likely to die from a fractured hip than breast cancer. Alcohol is a phytoestrogen and can help preserve bone mass. A woman can weigh her risks/genetics appropriately.
Gwen and hubby knew they had hit rock bottom when they experienced sub-optimal sleep the night after taste-testing a few wines in Nappa Valley.
letterbox wrote:
It's pretty sad that the fixation on picking on female athletes runs so deep here, this was the 2nd most trafficked thread while the CHI marathon is on. Emma Bates is getting a lot of love now, at the expense of Sara Hall, but once she has more success and is given any kind of spotlight, people will turn on her too.
I could not agree more.
Shalane Flanagan, Sara Hall, Gwen Jorgensen….all seem to get dogged on here for mere existence.
jamin wrote:
Gwen and hubby knew they had hit rock bottom when they experienced sub-optimal sleep the night after taste-testing a few wines in Nappa Valley.
Lol
I ragart nothing wrote:
BrainCell wrote:
At this point she really is struggling for content. As someone who had a family member end their own life due to problems that arose from abusing alcohol - I fail to see why anyone would celebrate this video/'accomplishment', if the person in question never had an alcohol problem. You're not '1 year sober', you just chose other drinks. Not to mention we are talking about someone who was a pro athlete and so would naturally be drinking less than the average person anyway.
Once again, Gwen puts out more painfully self-indulgent content.
P: "How was that for you?"
G: "It was easy"
As a recovering alcoholic who has been sober for 10 years, I actually am offended by this. If giving up alcohol is "easy" then you don't have a problem with it. So incredibly tone deaf, Gwen.
I am not an alcoholic, but I have been involved with groups and my thought is this is not really about "sobriety". It is great they did this. But I also find nothing amazing in it or worthy of bragging about either. Also, I am not one that thinks even regular drinking (a beer or two after work a time or two a week) is anything to be worried about for the vast majority of people.