Why do many teacher-coaches turn their noses up toward parents?

Feel better?

Didn't you hear what Joe MF Biden said.

Come on, man.

These parents are donestic terrorists!

A lot of parents out there act entitled or neglectful, and the two wear down our teachers.

In halfway decent school systems, teaching is much more than babysitting--its formulating lesson plans, creating fair yet rigorous evaluation systems, managing some of the social and emotional fallout of dealing with kids/teens. It's hours spent outside the classroom making lessons, grading, answering student and concerned parent emails, and attending school meetings.

I'm not a teacher, but I'm married to one - one who puts every ounce of sweat, blood, and tears into the job and genuinely cares about the kids' education and well being.

Have some respect.

Maybe they'd show some respect if Leftists like Terry McAuliffe, Merrick Garland, and their Marxist ilk didn't want to keep parents out of their children's education and didn't consider them domestic terrorists to be squelched by the full power of the FBI and its sycophant law enforcement agencies.

spouse of a teacher wrote:

A lot of parents out there act entitled or neglectful, and the two wear down our teachers.

In halfway decent school systems, teaching is much more than babysitting--its formulating lesson plans, creating fair yet rigorous evaluation systems, managing some of the social and emotional fallout of dealing with kids/teens. It's hours spent outside the classroom making lessons, grading, answering student and concerned parent emails, and attending school meetings.

I'm not a teacher, but I'm married to one - one who puts every ounce of sweat, blood, and tears into the job and genuinely cares about the kids' education and well being.

Have some respect.

People see what they will see.

We did parent choice and drove a lot for our kids to get the public schools we wanted. You have to start early to get a good place in line and siblings usually get in automatically.

The teachers were great. Maybe 1-20 were not fit for the job all the rest were very competent , decent and very hard working, and 2 or3 of 10 were pretty darn amazing with everything they did.

There was never a gap year with my three kids where at least one wasn't in middle school. So something like 8 straight years at the middle school. My wife, myself or both of us were awarded for volunteering time and resources every single year. Same was actually true in k-5.

For high school we know who the best mentors are and we guide our kids to them according to their interests, but this age doesn't go with as much on site volunteering. Give some money and materials things if you can go to student , science fairs, plays , concerts, even if your kid isn't involved in all of it.

With school, as with everything, balance your giver and your taker , be present to help and be a good parent and you don't ever have to demand things. You will be respected and your kids will be treated fairly. Like this you will see how great these people are. If it's not working change yourself, or change the school if you can, being careful not to jerk your kid around too much , of course.

What's especially amusing is that your first paragraph is the answer! Many teachers and coaches are unimpressed by parents because they have the attitude you do. Most teachers and coaches get along with non-snooty parents just fine.

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

Tell us what suggestion of yours was shot down by the coach and we'll tell you why you're a simpleton.

CrispyChicken wrote:

Maybe they'd show some respect if Leftists like Terry McAuliffe, Merrick Garland, and their Marxist ilk didn't want to keep parents out of their children's education and didn't consider them domestic terrorists to be squelched by the full power of the FBI and its sycophant law enforcement agencies.

please describe how any of the people you mentioned are "marxist." did i miss the epic speech where merrick garland described class struggle as the engine of history? has he called for the proletariat to throw off their chains and let the streets run red with the blood of the bourgeoisie?

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

As a teacher and coach in the private school system here is my take:

Kids are generally great and the kids that aren't are typically a product of their home environment. In my almost 20 years of teaching an coaching I can count on one hand the number of times I've had a real issue with a student or athlete. A significant portion of my issues have come from parents who believe that because they pay tuition and even donate money to the school that they can get what they want, whenever they want it. It's incredible the nonsense teachers have to deal with in regards to parents who think they can dictate policy.

You parent. We teach. We should be working together. But, based on your post, it seems like you would rather work against us. And the kid is the person who suffers.

Damn Shame.

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

You sound bitter and miserable and have probably raised a bitter and miserable kid. See how easy it was to answer your question.

Focus on parenting your child and let the teachers teach and the coaches coach.

YeshuaHaNozri wrote:

CrispyChicken wrote:

Maybe they'd show some respect if Leftists like Terry McAuliffe, Merrick Garland, and their Marxist ilk didn't want to keep parents out of their children's education and didn't consider them domestic terrorists to be squelched by the full power of the FBI and its sycophant law enforcement agencies.

let the streets run red with the blood of the bourgeoisie

Perfectly describes the intent of that idea known as Antifa, towards which the DOJ turns a blind eye.

Perhaps you should learn more about moms Asra Q. Nomani and Nicole Solas, sued by the NEA to silence her and squash her attempts to obtain public records about her child's school. Asra's story is here:

antifa is a bunch of LARPing dipsh!ts who are mad at their parents for making them go to bed at 9:00 on school nights. they are not marxists. the only thing they've done is claim credit for punching that one proud boy guy. hardly a revolutionary act.

i know i'm getting trolled but Karl Marx wrote thousands and thousands of pages of really dense and boring political theory and historical commentary, none of which pertained to lawsuits about creepy teachers. it's about CLASS. i.e., the thing no US politicians actually talk about because it's the one thing that actually matters.

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

If you are a teacher making $51K a year and coaching, at very least you deserve the respect of the parents of the kids you coach (which sounds like that is missing from you) no matter how good of a coach you are. The extra pay you get is very little and time commitment can be pretty high, which for someone not earning a ton to begin with is quite the opportunity cost.

Also, depending on the number of kids on the team - remember your interactions with the coach are but a minor part of their total interactions with parents, and maybe you just caught them on a bad day or days.

Finally, there are a ton of ways to coach and many paths to the same result, but a coach needs to chose a lane.

If your interaction started with - "you should do x, y or z" most any coach is going to shut you down no matter how good our advice might be - especially since they have to plan or the whole team and not just what's good for your daughter.

Yeah the hubris of some of these teachers is unwarranted. But the unions they're in and the liberal governments that pay/increase their salary in exchange for votes typically put them on a pedestal, making them think they're special and worth more than they truly are. Society in general also puts them on a pedestal and does not hold mediocre and poor teachers accountable since their union protects them from firing and is complicit with professional incompetence. So many bad teachers can get away with poor teaching which sets kids back in a time where they should be progressing amd developing. There needs to be more accountability for bad teachers and teaching. Job security is too high in that profession.

A handful of parents are simply horrible people. You are probably one of them based on this post.

Steve The Addict^^^^^^^------- wrote:

Yeah the hubris of some of these teachers is unwarranted. But the unions they're in and the liberal governments that pay/increase their salary in exchange for votes typically put them on a pedestal, making them think they're special and worth more than they truly are. Society in general also puts them on a pedestal and does not hold mediocre and poor teachers accountable since their union protects them from firing and is complicit with professional incompetence. So many bad teachers can get away with poor teaching which sets kids back in a time where they should be progressing amd developing. There needs to be more accountability for bad teachers and teaching. Job security is too high in that profession.

Lemme guess, a teacher got tired of your daily classroom BS and she put you in the hallway. So now you are mad at teachers, At some point Stevie we need to take ownership of the mistakes we make. Maybe you can work on that while you fetch more coffee.

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

You write something like this and wonder why teachers and coaches turn their noses up at you? Gosh, that is puzzling.

Because parents, like you it sounds like, don't respect teachers/coaches and their expertise. You have your own ideas for your kid's workouts? Tough luck, they're on the school team and you aren't the coach.

Your comments on teachers "babysitting" are frankly insulting. Who don't you drop your snot nosed 6th grader with a true babysitter, instead of teachers, for the next 6 years and see how that turns out for them?

concerned parent_ wrote:

Some of these people really think a great deal of themselves and, to be frank, most of it is pretty unwarranted.

You know, if theyre a 6th grade science teacher making $51,000 per year and coaching girls cross country at the high school level, what is the cause for the holier than thou attitude toward everyone else?

I mean, thanks for teaching the kids about the anatomy of plants and essentially babysitting them but get a grip, pal! Not my fault you defaulted to a terrible career path because your priorities arent straight. We parents are there to help you in any way we can but dont treat us like dirt under your feet!

/rant

Oh Karen, what a loser you are.

YOU are the parent who deserves to be treated like dirt. So, you assign their income to their level of righteousness? How very stupid of you.

1) First of all, you WISH you had it as good as most public school teachers in this country do. Just 180 days of work each year, salaries that top $100,000 for late career teachers, and most can and do retire before age 60 with awesome pensions.

2) When you have the attitude that these teachers are babysitters, then YOU are to be treated as dirt. What a stupid and disrespectful thing to think about teachers. Trust me, no teacher wants or needs your help.

3) Just because children hate you and you hate them doesn't mean that's the same for all people. Teaching is actually great career path for many reasons...early retirement, decent income, chance to be involved in other things of interest (coaching, yearbook, etc.) time off when your own kids are off, basically your own boss in your classroom each day.

YOU think a great deal of yourself, and you should not based on that ridiculous post.