A good example of this is Paul Tergat and Haile Geb. We all know Geb became the greatest track 10k runner of all time in the 90s. However Paul Tergat was better than him in XC in the 90s.
A good example of this is Paul Tergat and Haile Geb. We all know Geb became the greatest track 10k runner of all time in the 90s. However Paul Tergat was better than him in XC in the 90s.
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Carmody ran 23:22 finishing 4th at Joe Piane while ND sat out their top 7. So as an 8th man, he has run 13:41.
Trucker Hat wrote:
That’s the challenge of this question. “Best 5th man” refers to XC, which is time irrelevant. There’s lots of solid XC runners that are slower in comparison to competition in the track. The only one who can give you a solid answer is McDonnell himself. Unless he’s been quoted on this we will likely never know.
Doug Clark would be the next best option.
I was 6th man in 1999… got maybe 38th overall?
Ran 28:34 about 4 months later
adamD wrote:
I was 6th man in 1999… got maybe 38th overall?
Ran 28:34 about 4 months later
Adam Dailey (or at least someone impersonating him) is correct. Dailey was 6th man in 1999, finishing 39th overall. In May of that 2000, he ran 28:34 at Stanford.
talented wins wrote:
Carmody ran 23:22 finishing 4th at Joe Piane while ND sat out their top 7. So as an 8th man, he has run 13:41.
I was never implying that Arkansas has the best 5th man now. I was interested in seeing sort of how this year's Arkansas team would stack up against the all-time great teams of the past in terms of time.
29:04 on the track or cross country?
track, xc times do not count for much
Should note Eric Henry was 5th IN THE NCAA XC MEET in 1990, the year before he was 5th man for Arkansas. Behind only Jonah Koech, Shannon Butler, Bob Kennedy, and Jon Brown.
Should also note, about your women's coverage slightly further down in the article: Laurie Henes is most definitely out of XC eligibility, as she finished up with her 4th place finish in Tucson in 1991 (the same meet where Eric Henry was apparently Arkansas' 5th man. Didn't notice him, just the four Hogs that were in front of me.)
Elly Henes, who is in the photo, completed her eligiblity much more recently.
Not that it matters, but I was Arkansas 6th, 3rd, 4th and 7th man in 77, 78, 79 and 80. I eventually ran 28:31 and 13:10 3M on the track for Arkansas (in 82). We were runners up in 80 behind UTEP - I had a pathetic race that day.
I was going to say you. Anyone who was on 4 national title winning X teams is a great runner. If you say you were the fifth man fine but anyone who can a make a X team and also run 3:35 is more like a top 1 or 2 runner. Fast enough to be on the X team and run very well and then in indoor and outdoor track fast enough to get points and contribute to top level relay teams.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing