Almost everyone overestimates Covid risk

Nope.

I actually blame Dr. Fauci and the CDC.

Masks, social distancing and other mitigating measures should not have gone away until most were vaccinated.

Starting schools unmasked without socially distanced seats drove us into this current phase.

They should have never made masks optional.

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Almost two years into this thing, and still people are so wildly misinformed about risk associated with Covid. Blame the media.

Democrats wildly overestimate Covid risk...only 2% correctly identify unvaccinated risk of hospitalization, which is less than 1%. Almost one in two Democrats think there is a greater than 50% chance of being hospitalized if an unvaccinated person catches Covid (again, real answer: <1%).

Republicans (particularly the unvaccinated segment of the party) wildly underestimate vaccine effectiveness.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Nope.

I actually blame Dr. Fauci and the CDC.

Masks, social distancing and other mitigating measures should not have gone away until most were vaccinated.

Starting schools unmasked without socially distanced seats drove us into this current phase.

They should have never made masks optional.

Cry

Questionable1 wrote:

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Almost two years into this thing, and still people are so wildly misinformed about risk associated with Covid. Blame the media.

Democrats wildly overestimate Covid risk...only 2% correctly identify unvaccinated risk of hospitalization, which is less than 1%. Almost one in two Democrats think there is a greater than 50% chance of being hospitalized if an unvaccinated person catches Covid (again, real answer: <1%).

Republicans (particularly the unvaccinated segment of the party) wildly underestimate vaccine effectiveness.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

You really believe those numbers. I’d like to introduce you to some of my pyramid schemes.

Questionable1 wrote:

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Almost two years into this thing, and still people are so wildly misinformed about risk associated with Covid. Blame the media.

Democrats wildly overestimate Covid risk...only 2% correctly identify unvaccinated risk of hospitalization, which is less than 1%. Almost one in two Democrats think there is a greater than 50% chance of being hospitalized if an unvaccinated person catches Covid (again, real answer: <1%).

Republicans (particularly the unvaccinated segment of the party) wildly underestimate vaccine effectiveness.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

Trucker Hat wrote:

Questionable1 wrote:

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

You really believe those numbers. I’d like to introduce you to some of my pyramid schemes.

Great point! The numbers are actually higher, but health departments in some states aren't reporting everything.

It's probably closer to 1 million.

you are a pansy wrote:

Questionable1 wrote:

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

No people are expendable.

In that statistic, someone somewhere lost a father, a mother, an aunt, an uncle, a grandmother, a grandfather, a great grandmother, a great grandfather, a best friend, a confidant...or a combination of some of these.

Just because you aren't without doesn't mean others aren't.

And it hurts all involved even if they were 85 or more.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

you are a pansy wrote:

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

No people are expendable.

In that statistic, someone somewhere lost a father, a mother, an aunt, an uncle, a grandmother, a grandfather, a great grandmother, a great grandfather, a best friend, a confidant...or a combination of some of these.

Just because you aren't without doesn't mean others aren't.

And it hurts all involved even if they were 85 or more.

The same could be said for heart disease, traffic accident, old age, hurricane, earthquake, wild fires.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

you are a pansy wrote:

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

No people are expendable.

In that statistic, someone somewhere lost a father, a mother, an aunt, an uncle, a grandmother, a grandfather, a great grandmother, a great grandfather, a best friend, a confidant...or a combination of some of these.

Just because you aren't without doesn't mean others aren't.

And it hurts all involved even if they were 85 or more.

I found out yesterday that an elderly neighbor has passed away due to Covid. It saddens me greatly.

seattle prattle wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

No people are expendable.

In that statistic, someone somewhere lost a father, a mother, an aunt, an uncle, a grandmother, a grandfather, a great grandmother, a great grandfather, a best friend, a confidant...or a combination of some of these.

Just because you aren't without doesn't mean others aren't.

And it hurts all involved even if they were 85 or more.

I found out yesterday that an elderly neighbor has passed away due to Covid. It saddens me greatly.

Right..this. Condolences to her family and to you since you knew her.

Everyone involved suffers.

People need to think globally and not cellularly.

This pandemic is real, frightening and devastating.

Man can't drink an ocean.

We need faith, science, trust, compliance and regard to get through this.

Again, sorry for your loss, sir.

dodge ball wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

No people are expendable.

In that statistic, someone somewhere lost a father, a mother, an aunt, an uncle, a grandmother, a grandfather, a great grandmother, a great grandfather, a best friend, a confidant...or a combination of some of these.

Just because you aren't without doesn't mean others aren't.

And it hurts all involved even if they were 85 or more.

The same could be said for heart disease, traffic accident, old age, hurricane, earthquake, wild fires.

I'll address this and the differences.

Heart disease -- genetic, potentially chronic but not communicable.

Traffic accident -- possible, potentially avoidable, not intentional but not communicable

Old age- inevitable, genetic (as far as traits) but not communicable (nobody is catching my balding head)

Hurricane, earthquake, wildfire ( natural, devastating...but not transmissible

Covid is different that it's highly transmissible through any RNA exchange

Hope this helps.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

seattle prattle wrote:

I found out yesterday that an elderly neighbor has passed away due to Covid. It saddens me greatly.

Right..this. Condolences to her family and to you since you knew her.

Everyone involved suffers.

People need to think globally and not cellularly.

This pandemic is real, frightening and devastating.

Man can't drink an ocean.

We need faith, science, trust, compliance and regard to get through this.

Again, sorry for your loss, sir.

Thank you.

Mostly I consider a couple of things, and without dwelling on this, ending one's life in this way must be very unpleasant.

And I feel that as much as I don't want to talk about this, I understand that the person was not vaccinated and neither was her family. I would only say this on an anonymous message board out of respect for their privacy. But maybe the fact might impress others, so there it is.

Aren’t there about 2,000 people dying a day that didn’t overestimate the risk?

A large numerator over a gigantic denominator.

Facts are facts: less than 1% of Covid cases require hospitalization.

Democrats NEED Bogeyman. Their platform sucks that bad.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Nope.

I actually blame Dr. Fauci and the CDC.

Masks, social distancing and other mitigating measures should not have gone away until most were vaccinated.

Starting schools unmasked without socially distanced seats drove us into this current phase.

They should have never made masks optional.

They never should have required masks, since they don't really work.

you are a pansy wrote:

Questionable1 wrote:

Right.....tell that to the 700K dead that the risk is overhyped.

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

You pull numbers out of thin air (or more likely out of your...) and no one even challenges you. 85%? Nope as of the end of September the over-all total since the start was 28% were over 85. Yes, a high proportion but not your bizarre 85%. Not even close.

And the poster who said less than 1% of cases require hospitalization is almost as bad. It's over 2%. Yes, still a low number, but more than double what that poster claimed.

And the 700,000 dead, and counting is roughly 12 times as many as the American deaths in Vietnam.

When this thing started, nobody knew how deadly it would be, so it made sense to err on the side of caution.

It's not fair to blame Fauci or anybody that was just trying to protect people.

However, at this point, it's clear to me that it is not the deadly scourge that many feared for people that are "healthy" and don't have other "co-morbidities". To me, it is like the "flu" but deadlier for people that are "compromised".

And if you are unlucky enough to get it, it does have some extremely unpleasant side effects like loss of smell which is an extreme bummer.

If you are somebody that is obese or have other severe risk factors, I think it would behoove you to get vaxxed up.

Chances are it won't kill you and just might save your life.

If you are young, healthy D1 distance runner and you decide not to get the vaccination, you will probably be fine.

But I'm a CPA, not a doctor, so take that with a grain of salt, please.