It’s an anonymous message board so if I was doing that not a bad place. But let’s be real you just got triggered by I don’t know what? The documented truth of what happened in nursing homes nationwide?
It’s an anonymous message board so if I was doing that not a bad place. But let’s be real you just got triggered by I don’t know what? The documented truth of what happened in nursing homes nationwide?
The truth is getting harder to suppress. Insiders expose. Including the deliberate persecution of those who refuse the vaccine.
what in the what?? wrote:
Next thing you know we'll be Australia with covid quarantine camps filled with asymptomatic people. This is blatant authoritarianism, not to mention racist against AAs.
https://news.yahoo.com/york-declares-state-emergency-vaccine-141059446.html
All parties did not want mandates. Thats why it took this long. But, if you are the problem, making everyone sick, shutting down the economy and all the other fallout from stepping on others people's rights to health, you deserve to not have a job. You make rules for little kids because they dont know better. Unfortunately this is true for 10-30% of adults as well. By the way, you STILL have the freedom to not get a vaccine. You just dont have freedom from consequences from harmful behavior, just like pretty much every law we have. So count your lucky stars.
The Unkle wrote:
asdfghj wrote:
As for me, I'm vaccinated. I don't care whether people near me are vaccinated or not.
I am not vaxxed and am not worried about the vax status of people near me.
I am a bit more cautious in that I will avoid anyone sneezing and coughing.
So over a year and a half...and you still are not educated on this issue? Thanks for being part of the problem and continuing to contribute to preventable deaths. The concept of vaccine has been explained pretty much daily, and people like you are either too un-educated too understand this simple concept, or you purposely pretend you dont understand. Either way, you are the problem.
bigmig19 wrote:
Either way, you are the problem.
nah you're the problem. but it's not about pointing the finger at people who are the problem, it's about recognizing that that's what they want. 'they' being the people who run this ship, the ones telling us only 14 days to flatten the curve, that immunity from the vaxx would be for lifetime, masks and restrictions would be mostly over by fall, then that the vaxx was only good for a year, whoops, shorter than that, but it's okay only "immunocompromised" need the booster, whoops, looks like everybody needs the booster, and now the vaxx will be for life, every year, according to pfizer (which basically runs the fda) and then people like you (who mostly scoffed at 'conspiracy theorists' predicting all of this) go right ahead and say, 'hey, it's just like a flu shot durrr' - uh, are you required to get a flu shot to enter grocery stores? seen france, uk, italy, australia, canada lately?
see, the problem with people like you is, you're a useful idiot little nazi and you don't even realize it.
oh well, you'll be among the first disposed of
100% Agree!! My Grandfather died of covid after being quarantined in his Assisted Living Facility for 11 months. No visitors allowed, but yet the workers get covid & spread it to dozens of the elderly and many of them are now dead. Ridiculous.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
People realize that some of the biggest causes of COVID carnage in nursing homes was the workers coming in and spreading to all their patients. Would you really want unvaxxed workers willfully putting your elderly family member at 10x the risk. Nope.
*Oops...meant to quote the post*
100% Agree!! My Grandfather died of covid after being quarantined in his Assisted Living Facility for 11 months. No visitors allowed, but yet the workers get covid & spread it to dozens of the elderly and many of them are now dead. Ridiculous.
The great shortcoming to vaccine mandates is the refusal to acknowledge the superior protection of natural immunity for those with a prior COVID infection:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marshall-doc-caucus-letter-cdc-natural-immunity
They want to mandate the vaccines to continue the narrative that the vaccines are "safe and effective", when the real narrative should be "safer than contracting COVID for those who have not already had COVID (although I would argue there is no statistical support for mandating anything for those 25 and under), and less effective than actually having had COVID at preventing future infection". If someone has had a verified COVID infection or antibody test, they should be exempt from the mandate. But they do not want to follow the science, they want to control the narrative.
So this magistrate is replacing medically educated people with unqualified individuals trained mostly to kill other people to "treat" the sick? Lunacy at the very least.
Sorry about your grandfather , but you are missing something , the elderly are supposed to be protected by a vaccine now , but they aren't . So somebody lied about the vaccine. It's like the boy who cried wolf, when do you stop putting your faith in that liar.
jda9ball wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
People realize that some of the biggest causes of COVID carnage in nursing homes was the workers coming in and spreading to all their patients. Would you really want unvaxxed workers willfully putting your elderly family member at 10x the risk. Nope.
*Oops...meant to quote the post*
100% Agree!! My Grandfather died of covid after being quarantined in his Assisted Living Facility for 11 months. No visitors allowed, but yet the workers get covid & spread it to dozens of the elderly and many of them are now dead. Ridiculous.
I feel for you in the fact that he had to die alone with strangers rather than with family. That was the great injustice during COVID for those at the end of their life. But how long did you expect your grandpa to live for once your parents put him in an assisted living facility? Three of my grandparents died in their home, one lived for a number of years in an Alzheimer's wing (it would have been more merciful had she died sooner, Alzheimer's is horrible). The average life expectancy of someone in assisted living before COVID was 21-28 months. For nursing homes, 53% die within 6 months. My wife's great grandma died about a week after they moved her out of her home (this was long before COVID). Most seniors lose the will to live once they are taken from their home. In nature, when an animal is no longer able to hunt, it is either eaten, dies of starvation or dies from disease. None of us gets out of here alive.
joed|rt wrote:
The great shortcoming to vaccine mandates is the refusal to acknowledge the superior protection of natural immunity for those with a prior COVID infection:
They want to mandate the vaccines to continue the narrative that the vaccines are "safe and effective", when the real narrative should be "safer than contracting COVID for those who have not already had COVID (although I would argue there is no statistical support for mandating anything for those 25 and under), and less effective than actually having had COVID at preventing future infection". If someone has had a verified COVID infection or antibody test, they should be exempt from the mandate. But they do not want to follow the science, they want to control the narrative.
Nah, prior infection + one dose is such good immunity we shouldn't let people off the hook.
There's a wider range of immune responses to COVID infection than to the vaccine, IIRC, so we should be demanding an antibody test to prove these people actually developed immunity.
Most people will probably just get a free shot rather than pay for an antibody test. Economics!
Pendejon wrote:
Sorry about your grandfather , but you are missing something , the elderly are supposed to be protected by a vaccine now , but they aren't . So somebody lied about the vaccine. It's like the boy who cried wolf, when do you stop putting your faith in that liar.
Nobody has ever said that the vaccine offers 100%, guaranteed protection for everybody. It's pretty well established that the effectiveness of the vaccine varies based on age and other risk factors. Being vaccinated is better than not being vaccinated, though.
You apparently hear what you want to hear, rather than what is actually being said.
joed|rt wrote:
The great shortcoming to vaccine mandates is the refusal to acknowledge the superior protection of natural immunity for those with a prior COVID infection:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marshall-doc-caucus-letter-cdc-natural-immunityThey want to mandate the vaccines to continue the narrative that the vaccines are "safe and effective", when the real narrative should be "safer than contracting COVID for those who have not already had COVID (although I would argue there is no statistical support for mandating anything for those 25 and under), and less effective than actually having had COVID at preventing future infection". If someone has had a verified COVID infection or antibody test, they should be exempt from the mandate. But they do not want to follow the science, they want to control the narrative.
The article you linked does not say what you're claiming it says.
joed|rt wrote:
I feel for you in the fact that he had to die alone with strangers rather than with family. That was the great injustice during COVID for those at the end of their life. But how long did you expect your grandpa to live for once your parents put him in an assisted living facility? Three of my grandparents died in their home, one lived for a number of years in an Alzheimer's wing (it would have been more merciful had she died sooner, Alzheimer's is horrible). The average life expectancy of someone in assisted living before COVID was 21-28 months. For nursing homes, 53% die within 6 months. My wife's great grandma died about a week after they moved her out of her home (this was long before COVID). Most seniors lose the will to live once they are taken from their home. In nature, when an animal is no longer able to hunt, it is either eaten, dies of starvation or dies from disease. None of us gets out of here alive.
"Death of preventable disease is Actually Good"
Insane that you would prefer this take over: "healthcare workers should be vaccinated"
The apologism for murderous antivaxxers is comical.
No vaccine didn’t work for old people and the vaccine doesn’t work for old people .
No vaccine worked for young healthy people and the vaccinne appears to work for young healthy people ,
The experts were even wrong about plexiglass
Shields !
Dufus wrote:
No vaccine didn’t work for old people and the vaccine doesn’t work for old people .
No vaccine worked for young healthy people and the vaccinne appears to work for young healthy people ,
The experts were even wrong about plexiglass
Shields !
The vaccine is highly effective for the elderly. Care to provide evidence otherwise?
Antivaxxers are so mad vaccines work they will just make stuff up.
Highly effective would mean you could quit pimping the thing on everybody because of old and sick people .
How about that plexiglass ?
Harambe wrote:
The vaccine is highly effective for the elderly. Care to provide evidence otherwise?
Note: the antivaxxers could not
Dufus wrote:
Highly effective would mean you could quit pimping the thing on everybody because of old and sick people .
Precisely.
The vaccine works... but YOU need to take it or else MY vaccine doesn't work
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