like 3 mins hard (race pace or faster) followed by 1-2 mins easy or something like that? would it ever work? totally serious.
like 3 mins hard (race pace or faster) followed by 1-2 mins easy or something like that? would it ever work? totally serious.
and I mean DURING the race
You can’t be serious .
I'm semi serious... maybe not PR but running decently fast... basically with short bursts followed by periods of running slightly slower
sttrunner20 wrote:
and I mean DURING the race
It did not work out too well for Sam Chelenga in the 10k at the 2017 Wch trials.
video link? kinda curious
I did this and won a small local hilly 10K in 38:XX.
I was doing 800 m hard / 200 m float.
I would surge many times in races if I wanted to break a rival. I loved it, they hated it. It worked.
Ever watched a middle school race?
sttrunner20 wrote:
like 3 mins hard (race pace or faster) followed by 1-2 mins easy or something like that? would it ever work? totally serious.
Yes. If you race almost every weekend for years, you probably try any number of things. That was one. One of the least revealing. I just learned that if I'm in pretty good shape I can vary my pace.
My fave was going out like a bat and seeing how long I could maintain. Worked out sometimes, Didn't so well more often.
Do you not watch any athlete run, fast 10-60 seconds, jog for x laps, kick for 50m-350m.
Sounds like fartlek to me
Henry Rono used to mix up his paces quit a bit during races. Something akin to a fartlek during a race.
its only 5k wrote:
Do you not watch any athlete run, fast 10-60 seconds, jog for x laps, kick for 50m-350m.
Sounds like fartlek to me
lol, hard, easy, hard, just a lot of easy but hey still a fartlek, right?
sttrunner20 wrote:
like 3 mins hard (race pace or faster) followed by 1-2 mins easy or something like that? would it ever work? totally serious.
doing surges during a race is essentially doing a less varied fartlek (i.e. one where you'd slow down to medium/easy pace) where you return to race pace after your surge
its only 5k wrote:
Do you not watch any athlete run, fast 10-60 seconds, jog for x laps, kick for 50m-350m.
Sounds like fartlek to me
No it doesn't
If you are a 400/800 runner who has no aptitude or passion for cross country and the distance is 5000m or so.
Gears are faster than "race pace", wherever you feel some joy in the running. vs
It gets tougher in mile 3 but at least you are in the race vs jogging at the back.
Best to train w/ fartlek sessions prior.
A lot of strong local high school teams do this against weaker schools in conference dual meets. I have also seen them do the "race" as a tempo run, rest 5 minutes, and then tempo the course again.
no
Our high school XC team did this all the time during dual and tri meets in the early-80s.
Oddly, a lot of our slower runners would run faster times on our home course this way, than they would at our big invite. Might have just been that we would stick together, and try and go 1-5, which we did every time. Encouragement or whatever.
I am pretty sure Rupp did this at a certain 10k Olympic Trials. 2012 or 2016 or something...