Just saw a help wanted sign for McDonalds: starting at $18

Liberals are morons wrote:

X-Runner wrote:

Are the fast food workers kids or are they 29?

I'd wager they are mostly kids at night and older 40-50+ people during the day. Averages can be misleading to people who don't understand how they work.

"I'M NOT OWNED. I'M NOT OWNED. I KNOW STATS. I KNOW WHAT AN AVERAGE IS."

‐liberals are morons

Stimulus checks have been done for a long time. Unemployment benefits ended. This is the free market. You know it.

You can keep crying that only you understand economics, but you're a classic Dunning-Kruger child who is unaware that wages can (and have been in the past) be a larger percentage of revenue, AND that there is wiggle room when a company makes enough money, AND that sometimes a business owner might have to pay more than they would ideally like to in order to attract new employees. Jesus Christ, dude. Accept that some fast food places might have to pay higher wages than they used to. It's ok. You shouldn't be eating the McFlurries anyway. The McDonald's are not closing down. No one is dying.

chidder wrote:

Liberals are morons wrote:

I'd wager they are mostly kids at night and older 40-50+ people during the day. Averages can be misleading to people who don't understand how they work.

"I'M NOT OWNED. I'M NOT OWNED. I KNOW STATS. I KNOW WHAT AN AVERAGE IS."

‐liberals are morons

If you have 4 people on a shift and 3 are 18 years old and 1 is 60 years old... what's the average?

You literally don't understand how averages work... lol.

The states gave out checks too. When you made more money from the checks than you would have if you were actually working you could justify not going back to work in any kind of hurry.

I didn't say only I understand economics.. I said you and that other idiot clearly don't....

There is "wiggle room" for you to pay extra taxes every year. Yet you don't do it. Why? Is it because you don't care about those less fortunate than you who need the benefits?? Why are you so stingy? Are you only generous with other people's money? You'll rant and rave about equity until it's your money someone else wants and then your true feelings come out?

Should have asked for 1 mcdouble, 2 chickens, extra sauce and pickles and onions, with a large coffee with a lot of creamers. Plus any discounts you can get through the app. Should be about 2000 calories for 10 dollars. Plus another dollar if you want some tomatoes and lettuce on those- always bargain.

States also stopped their checks. You're now accusing me of...tax evasion? You're off your rocker, old man.

capitalism means only i make more money wrote:

Liberals are morons wrote:

The states gave out checks too. When you made more money from the checks than you would have if you were actually working you could justify not going back to work in any kind of hurry.

I didn't say only I understand economics.. I said you and that other idiot clearly don't....

There is "wiggle room" for you to pay extra taxes every year. Yet you don't do it. Why? Is it because you don't care about those less fortunate than you who need the benefits?? Why are you so stingy? Are you only generous with other people's money? You'll rant and rave about equity until it's your money someone else wants and then your true feelings come out?

States also stopped their checks. You're now accusing me of...tax evasion? You're off your rocker, old man.

You're probably older than I am you idiot... You want other people to pay more than they have to for someone else's benefit. Why don't you pay more than you have to on your taxes if you're so generous?

Liberals are morons wrote:

The average fast food worker is around 29. If you are 29 and still making entry level wages that's on you. Life ain't fair little guy.

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If you have 4 people on a shift and 3 are 18 years old and 1 is 60 years old... what's the average?

You literally don't understand how averages work... lol.

You go off making fun of 29 year olds working entry level (you’re average)

Then you give a scenario where no one is close to 29.

Can you pin down the typical (not average) fast food worker.

18?

29?

60?

The states that ended their UI benefits saw no decrease in unemployment compared to those that didn't.

Turns out the pandemic just made people realized they don't have to work sh***y jobs for sh***y wages.... oops.

X-Runner wrote:

Liberals are morons wrote:

The average fast food worker is around 29. If you are 29 and still making entry level wages that's on you. Life ain't fair little guy.

. . .

If you have 4 people on a shift and 3 are 18 years old and 1 is 60 years old... what's the average?

You literally don't understand how averages work... lol.

You go off making fun of 29 year olds working entry level (you’re average)

Then you give a scenario where no one is close to 29.

Can you pin down the typical (not average) fast food worker.

18?

29?

60?

Pointing out that you shouldn't be working entry level fast food jobs at 29 isn't making fun of anyone it's pointing out a fact...

I only mentioned the age because the other idiot was saying the average fast food worker wasn't a kid....

You apparently don't understand what an average means either...

Economist^2 wrote:

The states that ended their UI benefits saw no decrease in unemployment compared to those that didn't.

Turns out the pandemic just made people realized they don't have to work sh***y jobs for sh***y wages.... oops.

OR when you give someone 2 years wages not to work in 1 year they won't be in any hurry to get back to work...

Liberals are morons wrote:

X-Runner wrote:

You go off making fun of 29 year olds working entry level (you’re average)

Then you give a scenario where no one is close to 29.

Can you pin down the typical (not average) fast food worker.

18?

29?

60?

Pointing out that you shouldn't be working entry level fast food jobs at 29 isn't making fun of anyone it's pointing out a fact...

I only mentioned the age because the other idiot was saying the average fast food worker wasn't a kid....

You apparently don't understand what an average means either...

53% of fast food workers are adults over 21 with a HS Diploma. At this point you're making stuff up and then declaring everyone an imbecile who doesn't know what an average is. Everyone knows. Everyone understands that your understanding of economics comes from a high school econ class mixed with some Ben Shapiro videos. You have no idea how wages have shifted over time compared to productivity, compared to inflation, compared to revenues, compared to GDP, etc.

All you've done is state things (average mcd's profits), declare people triggered idiot leftists who don't understand economics. To repeat myself, you 1. Say an irrelevant statistic OR lie about welfare checks and then 2. Declare that the other person is simply too stupid to understand basic economics as you do.

Recognize your biases. Understand that McDonald's may pay people more than you expect. Make peace with it. You are outraged because your understanding of "work" and "labor" is poisoned. You think a group of 8 people selling 1000$ worth of food an hour don't deserve 18/hr each, because for some reason you think people are compensated based on prestige and not the value of their labor. You don't have inside knowledge of this McD's overhead pricing. You don't know their financials. You step up to bat for them based on your own biases leading to a false narrative that you like. You like to be righteously indignant. You like to think that poor people are lazy and selfish. You like to talk about "averages" because that makes you an intellectual like little Ben Shapiro, using facts and logic. Grow. Up.

Liberals are morons wrote:

Pointing out that you shouldn't be working entry level fast food jobs at 29 isn't making fun of anyone it's pointing out a fact...

Are you sure you know the difference between a fact and an opinion?

Because any sentence that contains the word "shouldn't" will be an opinion, not a fact.

And that's a fact.

LOL! Liberals are literally incapable of self-awareness... LOL!

If you think fast food joints are offering starting wages at $18 an hour today because the work force is getting older, better educated, and more productive you're an imbecile.

Over 60% of fast food workers are 24 and under. 60% are in the demographic that shouldn't need a living wage...

Maybe in San Francisco an unskilled first time worker needs $37k a year to mop a floor but in 99% of the country that's a ridiculous number.

X-Runner wrote:

Liberals are morons wrote:

Pointing out that you shouldn't be working entry level fast food jobs at 29 isn't making fun of anyone it's pointing out a fact...

Are you sure you know the difference between a fact and an opinion?

Because any sentence that contains the word "shouldn't" will be an opinion, not a fact.

And that's a fact.

That's an idiotic way to separate facts from opinions... lol.

I think you shouldn't sexually abuse your pets. Of course that's just an opinion... you be you.

If you are 29 and looking for entry level work you invariably have made some mistakes along the way.

Pretending you care about the poor doesn't make you a good person. Particularly when every vote you've ever cast probably created more poor people than it ever helped.

Liberals are morons wrote:

If you are 29 and looking for entry level work you invariably have made some mistakes along the way.

What about a 29 year old with Down Syndrome?

How do you handle that variable when you say "invariably"?

The fast food workforce did get more productive. Education has nothing to with it. You didn't know that because you are the stupid one.

If they are offering 18$/hr that's bc it's the going rate.

States and the fed have stopped sending checks, and the checks were never enough to stop working. Unemployment benefits ended for Covid.

You are biased. You think you're way smarter than you are. You don't know anything about the place paying 18$/hr so you fill in the blanks and construct a narrative based solely on your prejudices. You're an absolute moron.

You ignored the part where I said that you don't know this McDonalds financials, because if you admitted that, you'd admit your argument is based on....an average McDonalds? Average McDonald's aren't paying 18$/hr. This one is.

I'm repeating myself and others now. There's no new information. You're too dumb to reason with. I don't know if you're a Fox-poisoned 60 year old or a Ben Shapiro tween. Nothing you say holds up against any critical thinking or factual evidence. You overestimate the importance of averages and are incapable of abstract thought. The only "ideas" you have are recycled from other people and are not relevant to the main "problem" of one fast food restaurant paying 18$/hr. You are truly beyond help.

X-Runner wrote:

Liberals are morons wrote:

If you are 29 and looking for entry level work you invariably have made some mistakes along the way.

What about a 29 year old with Down Syndrome?

How do you handle that variable when you say "invariably"?

How many people Down Syndrome do you know that are living independently at 29?

A person with Down Syndrome typically has the mental abilities of an 8 or 9 year old. Do you think the fact that 8 or 9 year olds could do the job is a point in your favor? lol...

"If they are offering 18$/hr that's bc it's the going rate"

No kidding Einstein... the question is WHY it is the going rate. You think the quality and production of the workforce magically doubled between 2019 and 2021.... I think it's because there's a scarcity of willing labor.

States and the fed have stopped sending checks, and the checks were never enough to stop working. Unemployment benefits ended for Covid.

Put your tiny little thinking cap on for a moment. If the government gives you more money from stimulus and unemployment checks per WEEK than you made in a month for over a YEAR do you honestly think people are going to need or want to rush back to work as soon as the checks stop coming??

You are biased. You think you're way smarter than you are. You don't know anything about the place paying 18$/hr so you fill in the blanks and construct a narrative based solely on your prejudices. You're an absolute moron.

Everyone is biased... There are THOUSANDS of places offering $18/hr or wages WAY above the minimum wage. Just because the OP is only talking about his local McDonald's does not mean that's a unique situation... You calling someone else a moron is laugh out loud funny. I have shoes that are more clever than you.

You overestimate the importance of averages and are incapable of abstract thought.

LOL! I'm literally the one who had to explain to you that the average was misleading...

You're incapable of any thought.