Jim Ryun did NOT race final 300m in 36.5. There were no splits shown. I cannot find evidence of 800m race passing 500m faster than 68.xx and racing final 300m, 36.xx. Emmanuel Korir passed 500m in 67.xx and could not race final 300m any faster than 37.xx. Sorry, no 46-flat for Jim Ryun for 400m as all the old timers say he was capable. Ryun couldn't even run sub-1:44 800m. Keep that in mind.
The 36.5 was at the end of a 1500, not 800.
Ryun ran 1:44 with splits of 53/51 - so it's safe to say if he had of been in a well paced race he could have run 1:43 high
46.9 - no disrespect to Jim, but it's amazing how many middle distance runners have relay splits that end in .9...coach got me at 46.9 (ot saying it didn;t happen, just saying that we see this .9 a lot)
Coe and perhaps Fermin Cacho or Noah Ngeny
Only one way to find out!
One way? Probably a few ways and he most likely has been close in one of this ways.
Jim Ryan was a 6,02 powerhouse with perfect form.
He was world record holder at 800, 1500 and mile. Olympic medalist. He is in the argument for GOAT middle distance runner. I could see him running 46 or 47 for 400m.
Nugoose, no chance in hell
Sebastian Coe was a 46.8 400M runner.
Jakob better work on his speed for this summer.
JRinaldi wrote:
The 36.5 was at the end of a 1500, not 800.
Ryun ran 1:44 with splits of 53/51 - so it's safe to say if he had of been in a well paced race he could have run 1:43 high
46.9 - no disrespect to Jim, but it's amazing how many middle distance runners have relay splits that end in .9...coach got me at 46.9 (ot saying it didn;t happen, just saying that we see this .9 a lot)
When Brazier ran a 2 second negative split in high school, 54/52 with decimals adding to 1:47, he had plenty more. We won't know how much more but he ran 1:43.5 the next year, shattering Ryun's college record. That 53/51 indicated well under 1:43 capability. It's not as if he were remotely pushed.
Unstoppable wrote:
Jakob better work on his speed for this summer.
Very dangerous thing to do, as it more often than not leads to injuries. There is a reason why one lands in 1500m and not 100m, it's the lack of natural speed. And if Jakob lacks speed to close a fast 1500m, most natural and safe thing to do would be to move up a distance, where his kick is enough to win.
Absolutely no way
i say he could barely dip under 49
1:42.99 means no slower than 47.49 wrote:
Jim Ryun did NOT race final 300m in 36.5. There were no splits shown. I cannot find evidence of 800m race passing 500m faster than 68.xx and racing final 300m, 36.xx. Emmanuel Korir passed 500m in 67.xx and could not race final 300m any faster than 37.xx. Sorry, no 46-flat for Jim Ryun for 400m as all the old timers say he was capable. Ryun couldn't even run sub-1:44 800m. Keep that in mind.
Found the hasbarat. Go back to your tunnel.
TrackCoach wrote:
Absolutely no way
i say he could barely dip under 49
We sort of need to clarify 46.9 versus 46.0. There are very few elite 1500m guys that we have legit times on. Coe running a mid 46 is one of them. Most of the rest are they ran a 48.5 on some relay in HS/college. Very,very few of them have the 5k times to suggest they are aerobic monsters. Few have 800m times to suggest they have speed to burn. If you lined up the WC finalist for a 400m with 1 million dollar prize purse, you would expect most of them to be in the 47.5-48.5 range. Much faster gets rare in a hurry(those 1:43/3:30 guys), and if you are strong enough to be running 3:30 with 50s speed, you are a sub 12:45 runner.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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