Katelyn Tuohy wins Adidas XC Challenge

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2 years ago 09/21/2021 9:37am EDT

re: semihaze

This is ridiculous! I know for a fact that most of the the class of 2020 could have went anywhere they wanted (Tuohy and Starliper for sure)! Which both of them were straight A students. Steelman transferred in and a Columbia student transferred in as well this year. Why???? Talk to any of them and they will all say basically the same thing….. the team culture, the family feel, coach Henes is a coach with a mom’s heart for her athletes. What parent and athlete would not want that?!?! I don’t know why people on this site always question why top athletes like Tuohy and Starliper went to NC state (they both turned down Stanford). Again why? Well I just told you why above. And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the top two top schools in the nation are coached by women. A women coach will always know women’s running better than the best educated male. Trust me, NC State and BYU are very unique places for female runners. Actually the toughest part about NC State is passing the coaches test…,,,, they will not take an elite runner or recruit them if they don’t fit their family oriented team culture regardless of how good they are. And lastly, really?!?! You are questioning whether Starliper and Tuohy got full rides????? They did !!!!!! And they would have gotten them at Stanford too. But who would want to hang out with a bunch of rich elite snobs?

2 years ago 09/21/2021 9:41am EDT

re: 7empest

7empest wrote:
This is ridiculous! I know for a fact that most of the the class of 2020 could have went anywhere they wanted (Tuohy and Starliper for sure)! Which both of them were straight A students. Steelman transferred in and a Columbia student transferred in as well this year. Why???? Talk to any of them and they will all say basically the same thing….. the team culture, the family feel, coach Henes is a coach with a mom’s heart for her athletes. What parent and athlete would not want that?!?! I don’t know why people on this site always question why top athletes like Tuohy and Starliper went to NC state (they both turned down Stanford). Again why? Well I just told you why above. And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the top two top schools in the nation are coached by women. A women coach will always know women’s running better than the best educated male. Trust me, NC State and BYU are very unique places for female runners. Actually the toughest part about NC State is passing the coaches test…,,,, they will not take an elite runner or recruit them if they don’t fit their family oriented team culture regardless of how good they are. And lastly, really?!?! You are questioning whether Starliper and Tuohy got full rides????? They did !!!!!! And they would have gotten them at Stanford too. But who would want to hang out with a bunch of rich elite snobs?

Lots to unpack there but one thing is for sure, BYU is a very unique place for female runners, male too.

2 years ago 09/21/2021 10:16am EDT

re: oinion

oinion wrote:
one more thing to add, the way these boards wait on bated breath for young female prodigies to come crashing down to earth is disturbing.
I haven't seen the same mood on these boards for
Hobbs
Nico
German Fernandez
Dathan Ritzenhein
Alan Webb
Lukas V
Nope. For them its all second chance! Third chance! They're coming along! That meet was a HUGE step in the right direction! and on and on and on.
Let her live.

You must be new here lol

2 years ago 09/21/2021 10:22am EDT

re: runnerexpert

runnerexpert wrote:
7empest wrote:
This is ridiculous! I know for a fact that most of the the class of 2020 could have went anywhere they wanted (Tuohy and Starliper for sure)! Which both of them were straight A students. Steelman transferred in and a Columbia student transferred in as well this year. Why???? Talk to any of them and they will all say basically the same thing….. the team culture, the family feel, coach Henes is a coach with a mom’s heart for her athletes. What parent and athlete would not want that?!?! I don’t know why people on this site always question why top athletes like Tuohy and Starliper went to NC state (they both turned down Stanford). Again why? Well I just told you why above. And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the top two top schools in the nation are coached by women. A women coach will always know women’s running better than the best educated male. Trust me, NC State and BYU are very unique places for female runners. Actually the toughest part about NC State is passing the coaches test…,,,, they will not take an elite runner or recruit them if they don’t fit their family oriented team culture regardless of how good they are. And lastly, really?!?! You are questioning whether Starliper and Tuohy got full rides????? They did !!!!!! And they would have gotten them at Stanford too. But who would want to hang out with a bunch of rich elite snobs?
Lots to unpack there but one thing is for sure, BYU is a very unique place for female runners, male too.

Lol! Yes BYU is a unique place. I was referring to both coaches style and the team cultures they build and promote

2 years ago 09/21/2021 5:35pm EDT

re: 7empest

7empest wrote:
This is ridiculous! I know for a fact that most of the the class of 2020 could have went anywhere they wanted (Tuohy and Starliper for sure)! Which both of them were straight A students. Steelman transferred in and a Columbia student transferred in as well this year. Why???? Talk to any of them and they will all say basically the same thing….. the team culture, the family feel, coach Henes is a coach with a mom’s heart for her athletes. What parent and athlete would not want that?!?! I don’t know why people on this site always question why top athletes like Tuohy and Starliper went to NC state (they both turned down Stanford). Again why? Well I just told you why above. And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the top two top schools in the nation are coached by women. A women coach will always know women’s running better than the best educated male. Trust me, NC State and BYU are very unique places for female runners. Actually the toughest part about NC State is passing the coaches test…,,,, they will not take an elite runner or recruit them if they don’t fit their family oriented team culture regardless of how good they are. And lastly, really?!?! You are questioning whether Starliper and Tuohy got full rides????? They did !!!!!! And they would have gotten them at Stanford too. But who would want to hang out with a bunch of rich elite snobs?

Is this reply for me??? Can old people please check who made the comment and reply to that person and not just reply randomly

Only dumb people would think katelyn tuohy does not have a full ride..

2 years ago 09/21/2021 5:45pm EDT

re: semihaze

Katelyn Tuohy — ACC PERFORMER OF THE WEEK

congrats to KT!!! i guess its safe to say she has fully recovered from her knee surgery an is fully healthy and clearly fitter than 3 months ago ✨✨👌🏻

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUGK9OJPMjX/?utm_medium=copy_link

2 years ago 09/21/2021 6:02pm EDT

re: 7empest

A few things

1. Good for KT for getting the win. Nice to see her come back from injury

2. Can we stop with the Revisionist History with regard to NC State. It’s never been a national powerhouse for XC nor has it ever been regarded as a top academic school.

3. Someone needs to get a hobby. Your level of knowledge about KT is insane. You must have a wall in your house covered in photos, newspaper clippings, charts and maps with yarn connecting all the dots.

2 years ago 09/21/2021 6:05pm EDT

re: semihaze

Katelyn Tuohy worship is a rewarding hobby.

2 years ago 09/21/2021 11:51pm EDT

re: semihaze

semihaze wrote:
7empest wrote:
This is ridiculous! I know for a fact that most of the the class of 2020 could have went anywhere they wanted (Tuohy and Starliper for sure)! Which both of them were straight A students. Steelman transferred in and a Columbia student transferred in as well this year. Why???? Talk to any of them and they will all say basically the same thing….. the team culture, the family feel, coach Henes is a coach with a mom’s heart for her athletes. What parent and athlete would not want that?!?! I don’t know why people on this site always question why top athletes like Tuohy and Starliper went to NC state (they both turned down Stanford). Again why? Well I just told you why above. And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the top two top schools in the nation are coached by women. A women coach will always know women’s running better than the best educated male. Trust me, NC State and BYU are very unique places for female runners. Actually the toughest part about NC State is passing the coaches test…,,,, they will not take an elite runner or recruit them if they don’t fit their family oriented team culture regardless of how good they are. And lastly, really?!?! You are questioning whether Starliper and Tuohy got full rides????? They did !!!!!! And they would have gotten them at Stanford too. But who would want to hang out with a bunch of rich elite snobs?
Is this reply for me??? Can old people please check who made the comment and reply to that person and not just reply randomly
Only dumb people would think katelyn tuohy does not have a full ride..

Geezzzz……..no it was not meant for you! I just hit reply because you were responding to all the nonsense that some we’re putting out there about Tuohy going to NCState.

And to the one who made the ridiculous statement that the Wolfpack is not a powerhouse……they have made more NCAA Cross Country Championship appearances than any other program. They define what consistency means in the sport. You could not name 10 legitimate women’s programs that are better than NC State. They are a CC powerhouse in the sport.

2 years ago 09/21/2021 11:59pm EDT

re: semihaze

i wonder if she is on partial academic, partial athletic scholarship. If you can get the full ride without taking the whole chunk through athletic, why not leave some of that money on the table to help build a team around you?

2 years ago 09/23/2021 3:15am EDT

re: high school xc coach

high school xc coach wrote:
i wonder if she is on partial academic, partial athletic scholarship. If you can get the full ride without taking the whole chunk through athletic, why not leave some of that money on the table to help build a team around you?

To have the depth they have I’m sure most of their athletes have both so they can have such a talented group.

2 years ago 09/23/2021 8:37am EDT

re: 7empest

I assume that your statement is true. What are the top 3 and how many appearances? I would have assumed schools like Oregon or Arkansas or BYU would have more.

2 years ago 09/23/2021 9:28am EDT

re: Mc Laugh

State has been good for a long time but not great. The recent co #1 rank was their first ever. E Henes and Chmiel should get some credit too for creating their culture and opening the NY recruiting pipeline. The NY girls become friends thru the NXN team, big meets etc. and even if they don't all go to same school, they discuss recruiting process. Meanwhile, a nice PA pipeline is forming too and they get good in state kids as well.

Academically NC State is not Stanford or the Ivies, but many programs are good enough that a strong academic record, good test scores and your athletic experience can still get you into an excellent grad program. Also, if you want to go with the 5yr plan, grad schools and research labs are right there at State. The future Dr Chmiel and Dr Rauber won't spend a lot of time lamenting their academic choices.

2 years ago 09/23/2021 9:45am EDT

re: jhasay

I won't vouch for the accuracy, but this (which I found on line) lists year by year, school by school finishing place at NCAA XC championships. NC State has been there a lot, but clearly other schools have more high finishes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yh-2gs8jI0G05LcNZstbHmBdNoWQmX6B5yAVnJKg_OU/edit#gid=1226715840

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2 years ago 09/23/2021 10:32am EDT

re: jhasay

jhasay wrote:
State has been good for a long time but not great. The recent co #1 rank was their first ever. E Henes and Chmiel should get some credit too for creating their culture and opening the NY recruiting pipeline. The NY girls become friends thru the NXN team, big meets etc. and even if they don't all go to same school, they discuss recruiting process. Meanwhile, a nice PA pipeline is forming too and they get good in state kids as well.

NC State has had a strong Ohio pipeline for years. Laurie (Gomez) Henes and her husband, Bob, both ran at NCState and are Ohio natives. Ohioans on the women’s roster now are Dominique Clairmonte & Sam Bush. There have usually been some on the guys’ roster also.

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