Will Newbury Park have 5 under 14:00 at Woodbridge Saturday Nite?

Bro their teenagers let them be

crut wrote:

Bro their teenagers let them be

Don’t forget this a 3 mile race not a 5k. It just fun to follow the greatest High School team in the the history of the USA.

So I can’t let them be, then I would not be a true fan. So get on the band wagon and root for them.

I'd say no. They couldn't get 5 under 9:00 at Arcadia with stiffer comp.

No way they're getting 5 under 14:00 strung out.

agent dallows wrote:

I'd say no. They couldn't get 5 under 9:00 at Arcadia with stiffer comp.

No way they're getting 5 under 14:00 strung out.

Woodbridge is good and fast every year. They won't be running alone. 5 under 14 might be tough. They should have no problem getting 5 under 14:30.

What does a sub-14:00 at Woodbridge translate to on other courses or track distanced?

I don't keep track of thede things. wrote:

What does a sub-14:00 at Woodbridge translate to on other courses or track distanced?

It doesn't really translate to anything else. It's flat and fast, run on the turf at a soccer complex, with some dirt road / parking lot, in some spots. It's closer to a road race than an xc course. It's cool to see the fast times every year. But, they don't really carry over to any other event.

it's pretty solid wrote:

agent dallows wrote:

I'd say no. They couldn't get 5 under 9:00 at Arcadia with stiffer comp.

No way they're getting 5 under 14:00 strung out.

Woodbridge is good and fast every year. They won't be running alone. 5 under 14 might be tough. They should have no problem getting 5 under 14:30.

they'll be running alone at 13:xx pace 2.5 miles into the race. Can't see their #5 hanging on.

surely under 14:30.

it's pretty solid wrote:

I don't keep track of thede things. wrote:

What does a sub-14:00 at Woodbridge translate to on other courses or track distanced?

It doesn't really translate to anything else. It's flat and fast, run on the turf at a soccer complex, with some dirt road / parking lot, in some spots. It's closer to a road race than an xc course. It's cool to see the fast times every year. But, they don't really carry over to any other event.

Woodbridge is closer to a track race than an XC race.

Keep in mind, though, in CA, high schoolers don't wear spikes in XC. The course is 3 miles exactly, so add 30 seconds to times. Then subtract 15 for the shoes. Then add 30 because this is ridiculously flat.

So a 14 is actually a 14:45.

They should get their average under 14 minutes. Newbury's top four can run under 14 with their 5 just missing 14 minutes.

I don't keep track of thede things. wrote:

What does a sub-14:00 at Woodbridge translate to on other courses or track distanced?

three dudes have broken 14:00 there at Silver Lakes (Nico Young, Cooper Tear and Luis Grijalva). there's nothing that you can really extrapolate across the season or other invitationals.

clovis at 5k in a couple of weeks would be a better indication of where everyone's at and how they stank rank against previous competitors on course.

some noticeable names on the all-time list (not updated):

https://gvarvas.com/best-all-time-boys/

correct course:

https://gvarvas.com/best-all-time-boys-individual-silverlakes-course/

Top 25:

Place Name Yr School Time Year

1 Nico Young 12 Newbury Park 13:39.7 2019

2 Luis Grijalva 12 Armijo 13:58.0 2016

3 Justin Hazell 12 El Camino Real Charter (LA) 13:59.5 2017

4 Cooper Teare 12 St. Joseph-nc 13:59.6 2016

5 Nico Young 11 Newbury Park 14:01.1 2018

6 Elias Opsahl 12 Redlands East Valley 14:01.6 2017

7 Kevin Ramos 12 Rubidoux 14:03.4 2018

8 Kevin Ramos 11 Rubidoux 14:03.5 2017

9 Jace Aschbrenner 12 Newbury Park 14:04.8 2019

10 Marcus Mota 12 Stockdale 14:05.4 2018

11 Loic Scomparin 12 Dublin 14:07.1 2018

12 William Frankenfeld 12 Poly (Long Beach) 14:07.6 2018

13 Adrian Schroeder 12 Dublin 14:09.8 2017

14 Reed Brown 12 Southlake Carroll (TX) 14:11.7 2016

15 Joey Nokes 12 Riverton (UT) 14:12.6 2018

16 Jaiden Melendrez 12 Desert Hills (UT) 14:13.0 2016

17 Anthony Monte 12 Vandegrift (TX) 14:14.5 2019

18 Ivan Mendez 12 Monache 14:16.5 2018

19 Gabriel Abbes 11 Great Oak 14:17.5 2018

20 Michael Mireles 12 Thousand Oaks 14:17.6 2019

21 Isaiah Seidman 12 West Ranch 14:18.5 2018

22 Joaquin Martinez De Pinillos 11 Cathedral Catholic 14:18.6 2016

23 Ivan Mendez 11 Monache 14:20.3 2017

24 Carlos Carvajal 12 Great Oak 14:20.4 2017

25 Evan Bates 12 West Ranch 14:21.4 2018

Big S, the Twins and Appleford were all under 9:00 at Arcadia and Little S winning the 1600. These five have a real good shot. Their current PB are on par with PBs the guys that broke 14:00 had at the time they broke 14:00. I believe they have a realistic shot at it.

And this is exactly why the other 49 states shouldn't even run XC or track distance.

Now that Saturday is here let’s discuss again.

I just watched their summer camp video with Givens of South Pasadena training with them. They were talking about great workouts and fast times to come. They also stated they have 5 Nico types running now. So I say fast times will come out tonight.

We ran last night. The course is slightly different and I’d estimate about 100m longer than the year Nico went 13:39. All my kids had 3.05 or 3.06 on the GPS. Plus it seemed the grass was a little softer as well. 2 years ago, it was super hard and dry.

My team this year is better than my team from 2 years ago, but we were significantly slower last night. We finished in the same position as 2 years ago (5th in the white division A race) despite being slower. Winning times were down across the board.

Maybe they won’t water the grass all Saturday and the times will speed up a bit bit it’s still longer than it was.

If Appleford can get back to his 8;56 shape from this past spring Newbury Park may approach 17 point an NXN.

CoachB wrote:

We ran last night. The course is slightly different and I’d estimate about 100m longer than the year Nico went 13:39. All my kids had 3.05 or 3.06 on the GPS. Plus it seemed the grass was a little softer as well. 2 years ago, it was super hard and dry.

My team this year is better than my team from 2 years ago, but we were significantly slower last night. We finished in the same position as 2 years ago (5th in the white division A race) despite being slower. Winning times were down across the board.

Maybe they won’t water the grass all Saturday and the times will speed up a bit bit it’s still longer than it was.

A good coach admits when his team screwed the pooch.