Was the polio vaccine has polarizing as the covid vaccines?

spb wrote:

There have been nutjobs and conspiracy theorists doing the same thing since the smallpox vaccine.

Some things never change.

Absolutely true.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Growbatina wrote:

Oh, looks like we have one from the shallow end of the gene pool. COVID doesn't give you the sniffles. COVID kills people and maims people. You are very dumb.

Stop spreading fear.

For 99% of people covid will make them sick for a few days and then they’ll be fine. There are exceptions where Covid could kill you but these are in fact the exceptions. The cold & the flu could also kill you but chances are it won’t.

Stop projecting your fear onto other people.

The truth is Covid kills people. That's not spreading fear. It's just a fact.

The Unkle wrote:

How many Americans has the polio vaccine killed?

Look up the Cutter incident.

Pretty sure you won't, because it doesn't fit your narrative

Go for Ed Chambers wrote:

Well, ok then! wrote:

Yes, over 650,000 such exceptions in the United States alone.

Ok, let’s do the math

650,000 / 333,000,000 = .00195

Duh!

I love it when heartless pricks reduce 650,000 dead people to a tiny decimal in an attempt to make those dead people less significant.

how about 9/11 3000/333,000,000 = 0.000009

how about Benghazi 4/333,000,000 = 0.000000012

See you fool, what you are doing is very offensive. And, the only point it proves is how big of an AHOLE you are!

I got mine at school in the 2nd grade (late 1950s). We all lined up and got a sugar cube. The adults seemed pretty serious about it but I was too young to remember any controversy.

Polio had a habit of paralyzing children, whereas Covid's worst outcomes disproportionately effect people who have one foot in the grave already.

In short, polio is a lot scarier than Covid.

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Polio had a habit of paralyzing children, whereas Covid's worst outcomes disproportionately effect people who have one foot in the grave already.

In short, polio is a lot scarier than Covid.

Rates of severe polio cases are under 1:100, likely closer to 1:1000. Quit your hysterical fearmongering and let us live our lives.

Sound familiar?

MichelleHarambeObama wrote:

The main difference is that when the polio vaccine came out the U.S. was a mostly homogenous society that had few reasons to question the intentions of its government.

Today, our government is obviously controlled by the same people that control most institutions in this country and you only have to look at the ethnicity of the CEO'S of the vaccine companies to know why they shouldn't be trusted.

Do they control the weather as well?

I don't think society was ever forcibly shut down over polio. I suspect a lot of vaccine hesitancy is (at least partly) a reactionary response to overwhelming and unprecedented restrictions on freedom for the year preceding its release. It's people going "f*** this. I've had enough. Chicken Little, I'm not listening anymore."

They're doing it at exactly the wrong time, since the vaccines can actually help us, but after Public Health USA literally canceled Christmas and forced people to walk around with rags on their faces for 18 straight months, people have gotten fed up and stop listening to reason.

The lesson: you can only demand so much from people, and you've got to save your capital for things that really matter.

Harambe wrote:

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Polio had a habit of paralyzing children, whereas Covid's worst outcomes disproportionately effect people who have one foot in the grave already.

In short, polio is a lot scarier than Covid.

Rates of severe polio cases are under 1:100, likely closer to 1:1000. Quit your hysterical fearmongering and let us live our lives.

Sound familiar?

It's the impacted population. Kids and healthy people vs. elderly and co-morbid.

Death toll for polio: 3,145 deaths (peak year for cases, 1952)

Death toll for COVID: 670,000 deaths (March 2020-September 2021, US)

Harambe wrote:

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Polio had a habit of paralyzing children, whereas Covid's worst outcomes disproportionately effect people who have one foot in the grave already.

In short, polio is a lot scarier than Covid.

Rates of severe polio cases are under 1:100, likely closer to 1:1000. Quit your hysterical fearmongering and let us live our lives.

Sound familiar?

I wasn't alive in the 1950s, but my understanding is that people WERE allowed to live their lives. They didn't mask. They didn't shut down businesses or schools. They didn't guilt the nation into cancelling holidays and vacations and every other enjoyable thing in the world. The "hysterical fearmongering" just didn't happen the way it has during Covid.

That's why the reaction to this is so aggressive: it's not necessarily just the vaccine, it's pushback against the mountain of crap that came before it.

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Rates of severe polio cases are under 1:100, likely closer to 1:1000. Quit your hysterical fearmongering and let us live our lives.

Sound familiar?

I wasn't alive in the 1950s, but my understanding is that people WERE allowed to live their lives. They didn't mask. They didn't shut down businesses or schools. They didn't guilt the nation into cancelling holidays and vacations and every other enjoyable thing in the world. The "hysterical fearmongering" just didn't happen the way it has during Covid.

That's why the reaction to this is so aggressive: it's not necessarily just the vaccine, it's pushback against the mountain of crap that came before it.

So people are protesting the other stuff by resisting the most effective and cheap measure?

I know people are dumb but come on. You don’t have to force reality into your dogma.

2600 bro wrote:

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

I wasn't alive in the 1950s, but my understanding is that people WERE allowed to live their lives. They didn't mask. They didn't shut down businesses or schools. They didn't guilt the nation into cancelling holidays and vacations and every other enjoyable thing in the world. The "hysterical fearmongering" just didn't happen the way it has during Covid.

That's why the reaction to this is so aggressive: it's not necessarily just the vaccine, it's pushback against the mountain of crap that came before it.

So people are protesting the other stuff by resisting the most effective and cheap measure? .

I believe that is a major factor. Like I said, you only get so much capital to spend on something like this. Burn it all up on unpopular stuff that makes everyone miserable (and is, for most people, worse than simply getting Covid), and you eventually become the enemy.

Plus, don’t act like Dems weren’t proclaiming they’d never, ever, ever take the Trump vaccine. There has been massive political posturing on this from Day 1.

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

So people are protesting the other stuff by resisting the most effective and cheap measure? .

I believe that is a major factor. Like I said, you only get so much capital to spend on something like this. Burn it all up on unpopular stuff that makes everyone miserable (and is, for most people, worse than simply getting Covid), and you eventually become the enemy.

Plus, don’t act like Dems weren’t proclaiming they’d never, ever, ever take the Trump vaccine. There has been massive political posturing on this from Day 1.

Words matter. What they said was that they wouldn’t take a vaccine based on Trump’s recommendation. But you knew that.

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Rates of severe polio cases are under 1:100, likely closer to 1:1000. Quit your hysterical fearmongering and let us live our lives.

Sound familiar?

I wasn't alive in the 1950s, but my understanding is that people WERE allowed to live their lives. They didn't mask. They didn't shut down businesses or schools. They didn't guilt the nation into cancelling holidays and vacations and every other enjoyable thing in the world. The "hysterical fearmongering" just didn't happen the way it has during Covid.

That's why the reaction to this is so aggressive: it's not necessarily just the vaccine, it's pushback against the mountain of crap that came before it.

I wasn’t there so I’ll just make up a scenario that supports my position and present it as evidence that I’m right 👍

The Covid vaccine is hardly polarizing. Smart people got it as soon as they could and stupid people found reasons to be stupid and scared.

It is a basic intelligence test. Only the laughable nature of right wing media turned it into something else.

dishonest on purpose wrote:

fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

I wasn't alive in the 1950s, but my understanding is that people WERE allowed to live their lives. They didn't mask. They didn't shut down businesses or schools. They didn't guilt the nation into cancelling holidays and vacations and every other enjoyable thing in the world. The "hysterical fearmongering" just didn't happen the way it has during Covid.

That's why the reaction to this is so aggressive: it's not necessarily just the vaccine, it's pushback against the mountain of crap that came before it.

I wasn’t there so I’ll just make up a scenario that supports my position and present it as evidence that I’m right 👍

…did the government force society to shut down over polio? Like I said, I wasn’t there, but I’ve never heard of anything like the restrictions used over Covid having been applied to polio.