"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

The Clown Show wrote:

No vaccine? Hospital bills and health care premiums about to go sky high

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/unvaccinated-your-health-care-costs-might-be-going-up-soon-11634767131

Turns out 20 days in the hospital with severe and preventable COVID is a risk insurers don't want to bear. Who would have thought?

Man Overboard wrote:

Harambe wrote:

More case fearmongering from the antivaxxers.

Get vaxxed = the average case is far more mild and less transmissible than an unvaxxed person = take more risks because COVID is no basically no big deal.

People who are unvaxxed in the UK are probably also getting tested less and/or taking more precautions.

Case numbers are badly confounded. Hospitalization and death numbers are less so.

Loving the excuses, guys. Keep grasping at those straws!

I've yet to meet the fully vaxxed person who takes relatively more risk than the typical unvaxxed person when it comes to Covid. Fully vaxxed are the ones driving around by themselves in their cars with masks on, or still out walking through public parks wearing masks. Unvaxxed typically aren't scared & don't worry.

Do you live in the UK?

Regardless, the UK numbers show excellent vaccine efficacy against severe disease, a number that is far, far less confounded then testing-driven case numbers.

It's devastating to the antivaxxers that vaccines work so well. It's ironic that they've now turned to obsessing about cases despite spending the last year yelling at everyone that cases don't matter for COVID (when they were in their COVID-denier phase).

Harambe wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Just absurd fear-mongering Ghost. Berenson has gone completely mental.

Wasn't his whole premise that COVID was a highly overrated and benign to nearly-everyone virus? Now the SCARY idea is that vaccinated people with significant levels of protection have something to worry about after going through a mild bout of COVID?

This is oh so pathetic.

Berenson's livelihood is now tied up in the COVID grift. He's tanked the rest of his career and needs to scam money from the COVID deniers for the rest of his life.

Look for him to be yelling about the dangers of vaccines in 30 years still.

Just as Harambe will be praising the three boosters every year for years while the vaccinated continue to fall sick

The Unkle wrote:

Berenson's livelihood is now tied up in the COVID grift. He's tanked the rest of his career and needs to scam money from the COVID deniers for the rest of his life.

Look for him to be yelling about the dangers of vaccines in 30 years still.

Just as Harambe will be praising the three boosters every year for years while the vaccinated continue to fall sick[/quote]

FACT: For people under 65+ and without comorbidities, there have been a grand total of 0 boosters recommended after 9 months.

So, The Unkle, I would suggest you stop making far-flung predictions until you have reason to make them.

Germany the latest to have a seasonal delta spike:

70% vaccinated, medical mask mandates and COVID passports being enforced.

https://nation.lk/online/covid-cases-rise-across-europe-germany-says-increases-are-expected-134141.html

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Berenson's livelihood is now tied up in the COVID grift. He's tanked the rest of his career and needs to scam money from the COVID deniers for the rest of his life.

Look for him to be yelling about the dangers of vaccines in 30 years still.

Just as Harambe will be praising the three boosters every year for years while the vaccinated continue to fall sick

FACT: For people under 65+ and without comorbidities, there have been a grand total of 0 boosters recommended after 9 months.

So, The Unkle, I would suggest you stop making far-flung predictions until you have reason to make them.[/quote]

You think boosters aren't coming?

Give me a break my incredibly naive friend.

Not only will they be recommended they will be mandated.

They ain't stopping at two shots.

Sheesh.

Alright buddy. You are moving the goalposts already

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Alright buddy. You are moving the goalposts already

Do you even know what that means?

Of course boosters are going to be mandated.

Have you forgotten 2020 when Fauci, Biden, and Pelosi all publicly stated there would be no vaccine mandates, that the government did not have the power of the right to impose these?

You ain't figured out yet we are being lied to?

Already forgotten that we were told that vaccines would stop transmission and that they would save the day?

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Alright buddy. You are moving the goalposts already

Disengage with Unkle (I have a script to block all his posts) and counter-troll less brain-dead people. My recommendation.

None of these assaults on our freedoms and rights done in the name of public health have done a bit of good.

Lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, etc.

They have done tremendous harm.

But zero good

Harambe wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Alright buddy. You are moving the goalposts already

Disengage with Unkle (I have a script to block all his posts) and counter-troll less brain-dead people. My recommendation.

Harambe is afraid to engage with me as I have truth and common sense on my side and he just repeats the establishment propaganda and name calls.

A man devoid of honor

Russian unvacced go home devastated (or to hospital more accurately). 700 out of the 750 in the hospital mentioned are unvaccinated. Now over 1000/day dying with covid.

"I'm calling on all anti-vaxxers who have unleashed merry hell on social media against vaccinations, look into the eyes of those who have lost loved ones," the governer said.

I'd ask the same thing of those anti-vaccers here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58998366

Well..... wrote:

Russian unvacced go home devastated (or to hospital more accurately). 700 out of the 750 in the hospital mentioned are unvaccinated. Now over 1000/day dying with covid.

"I'm calling on all anti-vaxxers who have unleashed merry hell on social media against vaccinations, look into the eyes of those who have lost loved ones," the governer said.

I'd ask the same thing of those anti-vaccers here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58998366

And you believe this?

Same propaganda we have been fed for what seems like forever.

Why are the hospitals supposed to be more filled now that over a billion people have been vaxxed than they were a year ago when there was no vaxx?

How can you consider that "fact" from the establishment and not realize either the vax does not work of the numbers are fake?

What happened to thinking?

Harambe wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Alright buddy. You are moving the goalposts already

Disengage with Unkle (I have a script to block all his posts) and counter-troll less brain-dead people. My recommendation.

I mentioned this earlier but I am not entirely convinced that TU is a real person. Anyway, you're right, the less engagement the better.

Well..... wrote:

Russian unvacced go home devastated (or to hospital more accurately). 700 out of the 750 in the hospital mentioned are unvaccinated. Now over 1000/day dying with covid.

"I'm calling on all anti-vaxxers who have unleashed merry hell on social media against vaccinations, look into the eyes of those who have lost loved ones," the governer said.

I'd ask the same thing of those anti-vaccers here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58998366

It's an interesting point though. Sputnik V was released without any real trial evidence to show its effectiveness. The Russian government was in a hurry to claim the first vaccine on the market. I am not really surprised that this make Russians less trustful of that vaccine.

And yes, I realize the same could be said for any vaccine (how much data is "enough" data?) but vaccines in the US followed the standard multiphase trial before Emergency Use Authorization.

The Unkle wrote:

Well..... wrote:

Russian unvacced go home devastated (or to hospital more accurately). 700 out of the 750 in the hospital mentioned are unvaccinated. Now over 1000/day dying with covid.

"I'm calling on all anti-vaxxers who have unleashed merry hell on social media against vaccinations, look into the eyes of those who have lost loved ones," the governer said.

I'd ask the same thing of those anti-vaccers here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58998366

And you believe this?

Same propaganda we have been fed for what seems like forever.

Why are the hospitals supposed to be more filled now that over a billion people have been vaxxed than they were a year ago when there was no vaxx?

How can you consider that "fact" from the establishment and not realize either the vax does not work of the numbers are fake?

What happened to thinking?

If the vacc didn't work, there would be the same percentage of vaccinated in the hospital as out of it.

Get a grip.

Oh yeah, the numbers are always fake. Your answer to everything :D.

Well done sir, I salute you, and I commend your ingenious thinking and your help to getting more unvaccinated into hospital, where them and the insurance companies can make a killing and keep the economy going. o7

I completely agree about the trust factor.

Well..... wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

And you believe this?

Same propaganda we have been fed for what seems like forever.

Why are the hospitals supposed to be more filled now that over a billion people have been vaxxed than they were a year ago when there was no vaxx?

How can you consider that "fact" from the establishment and not realize either the vax does not work of the numbers are fake?

What happened to thinking?

If the vacc didn't work, there would be the same percentage of vaccinated in the hospital as out of it.

Get a grip.

Oh yeah, the numbers are always fake. Your answer to everything :D.

Well done sir, I salute you, and I commend your ingenious thinking and your help to getting more unvaccinated into hospital, where them and the insurance companies can make a killing and keep the economy going. o7

Let me rephrase for clarity, the ratios would be the same.

Well..... wrote:

Russian unvacced go home devastated (or to hospital more accurately). 700 out of the 750 in the hospital mentioned are unvaccinated. Now over 1000/day dying with covid.

"I'm calling on all anti-vaxxers who have unleashed merry hell on social media against vaccinations, look into the eyes of those who have lost loved ones," the governer said.

I'd ask the same thing of those anti-vaccers here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58998366

I've advocated for vaccines among the ones at high risk. Not the young (under 25) and not the previously infected. Mandating vaccines for those demographics is both unnecessary and potentially unsafe. Those demographics should be left to their own decision making and not threatened with the loss of a job or the loss of an education because the powers that be are trying to enforce a one size fits all approach.