"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

same ol, but different wrote:. And you, Harambe, and many others took the bait word for word.

It's mind boggling!

Meh nobody but the Very Online Muller lovers really bought into the Russia stuff. It was basically the Hunter Biden laptop of the right. Meaningless in the grand scheme but fun for TV ratings and for people to feel indignant!

Meanwhile antivaxxers have killed thousands of Americans! Quite different stakes than a few twitter memes.

But please, continue to change the subject at every chance — it makes it very clear that you have no rebuttal to “pandemic of the unvaccinated” and all the evidence presented! I love easy wins!

2600 bro wrote:

qh wrote:

I was never against vaccines, Harambe. You lose again.

Glad we are fighting the same fight! Nice to have another supporter in this thread! Sounds like a win to me!

From antivaxxer and denier to double-vaxxed hero. The QH story.

I’m shopping to Hallmark right now. Maybe we can get that dude from This is Us to play the lead….

At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days (Fig. 1). In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.

Pandemic of the Vaccinators. Confirmed.

"I was told this was a pandemic of the unvaccinated!"

"The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

"In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.

The Science says: "Let's Go Brandon!"

Pandemic of the Vaccinators. Confirmed.

Uprising wrote:

In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.

Sure, because--as others have pointed out--a "case" is just a positive test for the virus, and people who are conscientious enough to get vaccinated are more likely to get themselves tested as well.

By contrast, the unvaccinated tend to buy the Nonparticipant Package Deal: no vax, no mask, no test (until/unless they get to an emergency room). Since testing is uneven across populations, "cases" is a nearly meaningless stat.

Harambe on his favorite thread

https://youtu.be/xoI9H3uCYq0

formerly present wrote:

Uprising wrote:

In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.

Sure, because--as others have pointed out--a "case" is just a positive test for the virus, and people who are conscientious enough to get vaccinated are more likely to get themselves tested as well.

By contrast, the unvaccinated tend to buy the Nonparticipant Package Deal: no vax, no mask, no test (until/unless they get to an emergency room). Since testing is uneven across populations, "cases" is a nearly meaningless stat.

Yet The Vaccinators have been using "cases" to scare monger this scamdemic since day one.

Having it both ways much?

Pandemic of The Vaccinators. Confirmed.

Vaccinators going home to grind their teeth to powder.

formerly present wrote:

Uprising wrote:

In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.

Sure, because--as others have pointed out--a "case" is just a positive test for the virus, and people who are conscientious enough to get vaccinated are more likely to get themselves tested as well.

By contrast, the unvaccinated tend to buy the Nonparticipant Package Deal: no vax, no mask, no test (until/unless they get to an emergency room). Since testing is uneven across populations, "cases" is a nearly meaningless stat.

Many unvaccinated people now have to get tested just in order to travel or keep their job, while the vaxxed go about their

(not-so-merry, infectious) way. How does that figure into your little theory? (and it is a very little theory in the face of overwhelming FACTS)

Pandemic of The Vaccinators. Confirmed.

Uprising wrote:

formerly present wrote:

Sure, because--as others have pointed out--a "case" is just a positive test for the virus, and people who are conscientious enough to get vaccinated are more likely to get themselves tested as well.

By contrast, the unvaccinated tend to buy the Nonparticipant Package Deal: no vax, no mask, no test (until/unless they get to an emergency room). Since testing is uneven across populations, "cases" is a nearly meaningless stat.

Yet The Vaccinators have been using "cases" to scare monger this scamdemic since day one.

Having it both ways much?

TBF I haven't noticed The Usual Crew of Vaccine Fans talking about cases much lately. Well, except for twitting the "2,600 cases" guy.

In any case I think most folks now, whatever their position on vaxxing, agree that cases are not a very useful statistic, and maybe even a misleading one.

Cases are useful for detecting outbreaks before they overwhelming healthcare systems. In high-vaxxed, low restriction, places with Delta cases can spike and deaths don't spike at all. So the value of the "case" has changed somewhat.

At the end of the day we care about people getting really sick or dying! It's just how predict and measure that that matters.

The Colin Powell saga is a tragic reminder of the power of and need for herd immunity. We need a high vax rate to protect the usually unprotectable :(

Ivyguy wrote:

Uprising wrote:

Yet The Vaccinators have been using "cases" to scare monger this scamdemic since day one.

Having it both ways much?

TBF I haven't noticed The Usual Crew of Vaccine Fans talking about cases much lately. Well, except for twitting the "2,600 cases" guy.

In any case I think most folks now, whatever their position on vaxxing, agree that cases are not a very useful statistic, and maybe even a misleading one.

^This

Cases are only a useful statistic if you are Big Mad that vaccines are working and need to find a way to fearmonger them.

Hence the most recent brain-dead antivaxxer spammer on this thread.

In highly vaxxed countries the average risk of a case is now >10x less than it was before vaccines.

Cases used to be a big deal, they are much less of one now. This is simple math.

Here are more quotes from the study's author:

“This paper supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission, along with hand-washing, mask-wearing, and physical distancing.”

And: “Other research has clearly and definitively established that the vaccines significantly reduce the risk of hospitalization and mortality.”

Can I assume you'll be wearing a mask conscientiously to complement your full vaccination? Keep following the science, my dude.

Source:

So the authors stating opinion required to get through the review process without getting canned is now proof? What evidence do the authors show to debunk their own paper? They show no evidence of the need for vaccinations other than saying it is known in general to be important in most cases of disease spread. Why people think political opinions inserted into scientific articles is somehow scientific proof. The authors provide no data to support this assertion, they just assert it because they have to and they would get ruined by the public crazy mob. You are wrong here and the authors are being dishonest by making such claims without supportive evidence.

"Pandemic of the unvaccinated debunked!!!"

"Get over it, it is endemic, confirmed!!!"

The non-correlation between regional vax rates and deaths has been constant all year; there never was a correlation, just distorted views of dishonest people like Harambe. The whole of society does not need to get vaxxed, the vulnerable should get vaxxed to protect themselves and and keep the hospital numbers down; that is it and always has been it. This whole thread is a flat out lie and distorted mistruth created by a couple of idiots.

"Pandemic of the unvaccinated debunked!!!"

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

"Pandemic of the unvaccinated debunked!!!"

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

How does this study debunk the idea that you’re at much higher risk of contracting, getting sick from, or dying from COVID-19 if you are unvaccinated?

You really really really struggle with data analysis. But I’m happy to teach, discuss, help you!