Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
smhhhhhh wrote:
Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
Why do you say it's making it worse just accept rehabing sucks it's gonna take time do the exercises the person who studied to be a trainer gives you and just wait till they say you can cross train
DownUndah wrote:
smhhhhhh wrote:
Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
Why do you say it's making it worse just accept rehabing sucks it's gonna take time do the exercises the person who studied to be a trainer gives you and just wait till they say you can cross train
I have a f*cking bone in my foot that needs to heal and he's making me put pressure on it everyday to build up my stress tolerance.
He also wants me to get orthotics even though this is the first major injury of my life, and I probably got it from working a job over the summer where I was on my feet all day.
smhhhhhh wrote:
He also wants me to get orthotics even though this is the first major injury of my life, and I probably got it from working a job over the summer where I was on my feet all day.
No, you didn't get a stress reaction from working a summer job. You got it from running. The orthotics is up to you, unless your coach or university is adamant that you follow the advice of the trainer, but you are in college and not only is your overall mileage likely higher than ever, but you haven't even been a runner for all that long. The fact that this is the first major injury of your life is immaterial.
smhhhhhh wrote:
He also wants me to get orthotics even though this is the first major injury of my life, and I probably got it from working a job over the summer where I was on my feet all day.
no it would most likely be from running otherwise people would be getting stressies from doing their regular jobs
Someonewhoknows wrote:
smhhhhhh wrote:
He also wants me to get orthotics even though this is the first major injury of my life, and I probably got it from working a job over the summer where I was on my feet all day.
No, you didn't get a stress reaction from working a summer job. You got it from running. The orthotics is up to you, unless your coach or university is adamant that you follow the advice of the trainer, but you are in college and not only is your overall mileage likely higher than ever, but you haven't even been a runner for all that long. The fact that this is the first major injury of your life is immaterial.
exactly lol
smhhhhhh wrote:
DownUndah wrote:
Why do you say it's making it worse just accept rehabing sucks it's gonna take time do the exercises the person who studied to be a trainer gives you and just wait till they say you can cross train
I have a f*cking bone in my foot that needs to heal and he's making me put pressure on it everyday to build up my stress tolerance.
yes cross training will also put some pressure on it and rehabbing it will make it stronger otherwise it will just come up again later and it will heal but to help heal it you rehab it
How does aqua jogging put pressure on my feet? And how did going from a sedentary lifestyle outside of running to standing all day 6 days a week, without running any more than I have in the past, not cause this injury?
See an actual doctor about your injuries, ideally one who has experience with endurance athletes. And talk to your coach. Clowns on letsrun are going to give you conflicting and unhelpful advice.
Kvothe wrote:
See an actual doctor about your injuries, ideally one who has experience with endurance athletes. And talk to your coach. Clowns on letsrun are going to give you conflicting and unhelpful advice.
Yes I have seen a doctor unaffiliated with my university, and he wants me to rest and only aqua jog until I can walk without pain produced, which conflicts what the doctor and athletic trainer of my school is having me do.
Can DII runners reply to this or are we not allowed? Just wanted to be sure I don't get into trouble.
Anyway, I don't really blame my former athletic trainers, but the experience I had was not wonderful. I was a 4:15 HS runner with some good promise freshman year of college. Constant chronic SF's put me on the sidelines most of my college career. The trainers cared, but they never really tried figuring out the cause. It was always about healing the current injury. They were also swarmed with the other teams (football, wrestling, etc).
You need to be persistent and drive this yourself. I wish I would have done more of that. You can't expect the AT's to hold your hand and fix everything. They don't have the time and might not be experienced with alot of specific running injuries. If you go to another doctor, make sure it is someone experienced with actual runners. I did this as well, but they were not experienced with runners and it was another season wasted.
Also, I find running injuries can be unique. For example, an achilles injury...I find doing eccentric calf raises and running through soreness helps me heal quickly. An AT is going to have you sidelined for 2 weeks while icing. Very few AT's are going to suggest some barefoot/minimal running or zero drop shoe's when you are at your wits' end on with shin splits...but that could be the answer.
So, it's important to work with your AT and talking with them...but reaching out for additional advice from experienced runners/doctors is not a bad idea.
smhhhhhh wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
See an actual doctor about your injuries, ideally one who has experience with endurance athletes. And talk to your coach. Clowns on letsrun are going to give you conflicting and unhelpful advice.
Yes I have seen a doctor unaffiliated with my university, and he wants me to rest and only aqua jog until I can walk without pain produced, which conflicts what the doctor and athletic trainer of my school is having me do.
The doctor is looking out for your best interest.
Your coach and trainer are trying to get you back to action as quickly as possible. Do you run D1?
how long ago did you notice the pain ? What do the x-rays mri look like? Usually by the time you feel the pain the calcium is starting to build up and on the way to recovery. Depending on your situation you may consider a redshirt year. I noticed a stress F at nationals in June 1yr and came back too soon the next year and wasted an entire yr, lost the redshirt by scoring at conference meet. Looking back should have taken my time resting, rehabbing, and getting back in top form.
The problem with athletic trainers is that most rarely deal with endurance athletes, so they are not familiar with them and their issues. They also are trained to treat injuries, usually caused by contact or by rolling an ankle or something along those lines. The other issue they have is liablilty, they want to get you back but are usually overly cautious.
I have rarely met a college athletic trainer with any experience with distance runners or who actually cared about distance runners. Good Luck
Someonewhoknows wrote:
smhhhhhh wrote:
He also wants me to get orthotics even though this is the first major injury of my life, and I probably got it from working a job over the summer where I was on my feet all day.
No, you didn't get a stress reaction from working a summer job. You got it from running. The orthotics is up to you, unless your coach or university is adamant that you follow the advice of the trainer, but you are in college and not only is your overall mileage likely higher than ever, but you haven't even been a runner for all that long. The fact that this is the first major injury of your life is immaterial.
It makes complete sense to say the running put him to the edge of getting a stress fracture, but if not for the summer job he would not have developed the injury. So yes the running caused the stress fracture, but so did the standing all day. In a perfect world runners could lay in hammocks half their lives.
Strengthening the anterior tibialis fixes shin splints rapidly. You do the bass drum pedal motion, sitting or standing on a step, and being sure to go up and down beyond the horizontal and to turn your foot in somewhat different directions. You can increase the resistance a lot from gravity to a mattress by extending your foot over the edge of a mattress, while lying facing down, and pushing your foot against the mattress toward you. The shin splints often come from doing the eccentric calf exercises, which strengthen the calf and cause an imbalance on the anterior tibialis.
School physios first worsened my knee injury (tendonitis) by having me do calf extensions at too much weight--couldn't bend my knee for a month--and then did useless stuff the rest of the remaining 2 years of college--ultrasound and alternating heat/ice. I never got back. The doctor at the college gave useless advice, such as don't run anymore. But physical therapists later on gave me quad strengthening exercises that work exceptionally well with ankle weights over time and I got in a mostly healthy ten plus years of good running. So, find a good physical therapist. Doctors typically just say rest, ice, anti-inflammatories, and then in the worst case, surgery or quit running. All useless or harmful.
Geez, I was going to say the opposite. I have heard that weak calves are an issue, the anterior tib is stronger than the calf by because when running the ant tib tries to hold the toe from slapping the ground, becomes an overuse issue and a weak calf doesn't compensate for the strengthened ant tib.
Also, if your trainer recommends icing they are out of touch, unless you have swelling, ice prevents healing. Same with anti-inflammatories. Most athletic trainers are out of touch.
smhhhhhh wrote:
Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
As a track coach, typically we get dumped whoever the new or lowest on the totem pole trainer for our team. We've only gotten a dedicated trainer recently as in the past most of them were part time with us and full time with the major sports at the university.
As a track or cross country athlete, you're going to get trainers who are new and aren't used to dealing with the same injury issues that runners get. They are used to treating basketball or football, those are two sports you can afford to take 3 or 4 days off weight lifting and be "fine" whereas 3 or 4 days off as a runner has a larger effect on fitness. What sort of rehab are they having you do? Maybe tell them it still hurts. A little pain isn't the end of the world, but understandable that you just want to cross train and recover.
smhhhhhh wrote:
Developed a stress reaction towards the end of the summer and I am now forced to do rehab exercises with my school's athletic trainer, which I think is making my injury worse than if I were to just cross train and let it heal.
Yeah just don't get hurt.
Also a stress reaction isn't a real injury.