Patriot League Cross Country 2021

Yeah they do have the best PRs but when you look at the courses, there's no comparison. They ran those times at Lehigh, one of the fastest courses on the east coast. You look at what Navy did at Virginia and its clear they are the favorite with an average of 24:39 on a very difficult course. While they may not put their entire top 5 in front of these guys, they definitely will win, even on an off day. PRs don't mean anything when it comes to cross country.

As for Army, its a little bit harder to get a read. They pretty much jogged their first meet. It will be interesting to see how Beatty progressed over the summer. The same with Gough and Vo. This weekend and next weekend will definitely start to show where teams are at. Army is racing back to back weekends so we should be able to see everyone they have.

Being a 5th year senior doesn’t automatically make you faster, Lehigh is still nothing compared to other PLXC teams.

I don’t know buddy, Army looked pretty good today on a slow course and beat most of the Ivies. I’m sure Beatty will beat Mathias what do you have to say about that?

MEN:

Boston looked awful. Army looked good but not beating Navy. Men's team race is clear as day. Only battle left is for 3rd.

1- Navy

2- Army

3- Lehigh/Bucknell

5-Boston

6-Lafayette/American

FlatCourseXC wrote:

I don’t know buddy, Army looked pretty good today on a slow course and beat most of the Ivies. I’m sure Beatty will beat Mathias what do you have to say about that?

Since when is Franklin Park slow? It's faster than UVA's course where Navy put down faster times. At most, Franklin Park is 10 seconds slower than Lehigh.

The course itself is fairly flat but the conditions were terrible and very slow yesterday

Much closer than we thought between Army and Navy after Paul Short. Navy needs a better 5 but they might be better in a race that doesn't have 40 teams in it. Exciting battle for last place between Holy Cross and Colgate, looks like Loyola won't be the worst this year, shocking. Lehigh's 5th years are washed, Slavin not even top 7. Boston still has some talent holdover from Spangler so wait until next year for the collapse. Beatty to bounce back and win individual title but Navy to win team. Ireland to win but Krum gets the snitch.

1. Navy

2. Army

3. Boston

4. Bucknell

5. Lehigh

6. Others

9. Colgate

10. Holy Cross

Gabe Sanders is the GOAT. He will drink the blood of the non-believers.

All of Army's runners had career days at Paul Short, except for maybe Beatty who for first time in a while wasn't there number 1. No shot they can replicate it at Patriots when everyone's sword are sharp. Who's to say one of the other baby D1's in the patriot league doesn't also take down the plug uglies from Highland Falls?

Big10Fan wrote:

All of Army's runners had career days at Paul Short, except for maybe Beatty who for first time in a while wasn't there number 1. No shot they can replicate it at Patriots when everyone's sword are sharp. Who's to say one of the other baby D1's in the patriot league doesn't also take down the plug uglies from Highland Falls?

These teams always peak for Paul Short. Looks like Lehigh peaked for their dual meet against Lafayette.

Which team peaked the least? Maybe Boston University?

Its a real shame Donner didn't keep his top group out of Paul Short again this year. Now we see that he's really not some master tactician at performing best at the championship meets. His team just hides and runs on slow courses all season until PLCs. We've all been duped!

good call wrote:

Big10Fan wrote:

All of Army's runners had career days at Paul Short, except for maybe Beatty who for first time in a while wasn't there number 1. No shot they can replicate it at Patriots when everyone's sword are sharp. Who's to say one of the other baby D1's in the patriot league doesn't also take down the plug uglies from Highland Falls?

These teams always peak for Paul Short. Looks like Lehigh peaked for their dual meet against Lafayette.

Which team peaked the least? Maybe Boston University?

These teams always peak for Paul Short. Looks like Lehigh peaked for their dual meet against Lafayette.

Which team peaked the least? Maybe Boston University?[/quote]

Lafayette's team probably peaked the least, if they can even peak at all. Boy did they get their junk rocked at that meet. Throw Holy Cross in there too. Do they even run?

General Sherman wrote:

good call wrote:

These teams always peak for Paul Short. Looks like Lehigh peaked for their dual meet against Lafayette.

Which team peaked the least? Maybe Boston University?

These teams always peak for Paul Short. Looks like Lehigh peaked for their dual meet against Lafayette.

Which team peaked the least? Maybe Boston University?

Lafayette's team probably peaked the least, if they can even peak at all. Boy did they get their junk rocked at that meet. Throw Holy Cross in there too. Do they even run?[/quote]

As a Lehigh alum - Lafayette peaked best for the last XC championship. Hell, their new coach deserves a freaking medal for getting a bunch of 4:40/9:55 runners to place 3rd as a team. In 2016 they were dead last in the Brown race with a 27:50 average. 5 years later they are getting criticized for a team average of 25:40.

What happened to American? They hired a big-time power 5 coach, they have scholarships and 3 distance coaches and are still getting trounced by the aforementioned Lafayette team full of 10 min 3200 kids. I remember racing against some STACKED American teams. What is the new coach doing?

Does anyone have an over/under for how many times Gabe Sanders mentions how great his next three recruiting classes that will take over the NCAA are going to be?

If by "peaked the least" you mean completely blew up then I think that title goes to Bucknell.

Looks like BU is losing their best girl, Andrea Claeson is now in the transfer portal. They lost Sophia Jacobs-Towsley last year, who transferred, along with two recruits who jumped ship. In addition, 4 of their top 5 are also graduating. Don't worry though, Gabe can sell ice cream to an Eskamoe and they will be on the NCAA podium in two years.

That was some walloping army took today….

So who do y’all have now as most teams are done racing until the championship?