No difference between Chelimo and the Kenyans running for Bahrain. Where does it end? Soon we'll have finals consisting of nothing but Kenyans.
Well there is another thread with posters crying that the US might not have any male competitors in the World Championship marathon. Many crybabies here.
Paul now has an Olympic Silver and an Olympic Bronze at 5000m, along with a World Championship Bronze at 5000m. Paul has to be ranked in the top 3 all time U.S. 5000m runners, and likely in the top 15 U.S. distance runners of all time.
I like it when he salutes at the end of races - just in case we forget what a hero he is
No difference between Chelimo and the Kenyans running for Bahrain. Where does it end? Soon we'll have finals consisting of nothing but Kenyans.
It looked to be possible, especially if they give enough kenyans the pass to dope to the gills with epo freely while putting strict guidelines on domestic runners. We know Chelimo is loaded to the gills and we know where he goes and what he calls home. He is nothing to me.
However, unlike Bahrain, there's just too much world class domestic talent. Fisher is better than any Kenyan and Kincaid and Klecker are not far behind. US certainly doesnt need them. In fact there is no way Kenyans could make our team better.
In Canada, about 20% of our population is foreign born. I imagine it's a pretty high percentage in the States as well. I'm pretty sure that Paul Chelimo and Bernard Lagat have decided to make the States their home. This doesn't require them to cut all ties with their country of birth. It also bears no resemblance to someone who has been paid to take on another country's citizenship with no intention of actually moving to that country.
No difference between Chelimo and the Kenyans running for Bahrain. Where does it end? Soon we'll have finals consisting of nothing but Kenyans.
It looked to be possible, especially if they give enough kenyans the pass to dope to the gills with epo freely while putting strict guidelines on domestic runners. We know Chelimo is loaded to the gills and we know where he goes and what he calls home. He is nothing to me.
However, unlike Bahrain, there's just too much world class domestic talent. Fisher is better than any Kenyan and Kincaid and Klecker are not far behind. US certainly doesnt need them. In fact there is no way Kenyans could make our team better.
Kincaid and Klecker have not been competitive on the world stage as of yet. Fisher has, but he is from another country, like Chelimo.
No difference between Chelimo and the Kenyans running for Bahrain. Where does it end? Soon we'll have finals consisting of nothing but Kenyans.
Except that Chelimo ran in college here and then joined the Army to get his citizenship....
...yea, totally the same.....
Alan
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Paul Chelimo is a US military veteran. The world class athlete program is no joke. These soldiers are soldiers first and they serve with distinction. Anybody questioning Chelimo’s status as an American or his loyalties, especially somebody who hasn’t served, can seriously shut the f up.
Except that Chelimo ran in college here and then joined the Army to get his citizenship....
...yea, totally the same.....
Alan
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Paul Chelimo is a US military veteran. The world class athlete program is no joke. These soldiers are soldiers first and they serve with distinction. Anybody questioning Chelimo’s status as an American or his loyalties, especially somebody who hasn’t served, can seriously shut the f up.
I have a female in my class who ran a :54 400m.....2sec off qualifying for WCAP. She ran college at some small christian college in Colorado.
Except that Chelimo ran in college here and then joined the Army to get his citizenship....
...yea, totally the same.....
Alan
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Paul Chelimo is a US military veteran. The world class athlete program is no joke. These soldiers are soldiers first and they serve with distinction. Anybody questioning Chelimo’s status as an American or his loyalties, especially somebody who hasn’t served, can seriously shut the f up.
Paul Chalimo is an opportunist. Not faulting him for that as the opportunities presented to him by the United States he earned and ran-with-it.
To rehash… US college scholarship, Nike professional contract, US Army team that enabled US citizenship free health care, salary, living and travel expenses, coaching. He is now with a different sponsor and out of the US Army. The US tax payer has very generously enabled Paul Chalimo to do what he loves. And Paul Chalimo has produced medals at worlds and Olympics for the USA.
Since the end of summer 2022 he has been living and training in Kenya.
Saying he is going home to train (in Kenya) says where home is and it is not the United States.
Given the hotbed and news that is all Kenya, I am surprised he wouldn’t stay clear of training in Kenya and live and train in the USA or part time in another country far removed from Kenya.
He cost himself the standard by doing his usual routine of looking around and waiting for someone else to do the work.
It was good to see him actually snap out of it at half way and have a crack, but you could tell that he was in two minds as he fought his natural instincts to ease off, rather than keep redlining.
In a race that's set up as a time-trial to get the standard, an all-time great wouldn't do this - they'd go, and go hard all the way to the finish.
Umm .. how many bums running 65-120 seconds behind him did he have to pass while shouldering the pace of ~ 27:09- 27:20 solo ..?? I’ll go out on a limb and say he could run ~27:02 last night. Go hard all you want… but I don’t remember any ‘world class 10,000m’ where so many competitors being passed while trying to maintain 65.19/400m, 2:42.98/km.
Paul Chelimo is a US military veteran. The world class athlete program is no joke. These soldiers are soldiers first and they serve with distinction. Anybody questioning Chelimo’s status as an American or his loyalties, especially somebody who hasn’t served, can seriously shut the f up.
Paul Chalimo is an opportunist. Not faulting him for that as the opportunities presented to him by the United States he earned and ran-with-it.
To rehash… US college scholarship, Nike professional contract, US Army team that enabled US citizenship free health care, salary, living and travel expenses, coaching. He is now with a different sponsor and out of the US Army. The US tax payer has very generously enabled Paul Chalimo to do what he loves. And Paul Chalimo has produced medals at worlds and Olympics for the USA.
Since the end of summer 2022 he has been living and training in Kenya.
Saying he is going home to train (in Kenya) says where home is and it is not the United States.
Given the hotbed and news that is all Kenya, I am surprised he wouldn’t stay clear of training in Kenya and live and train in the USA or part time in another country far removed from Kenya.
Opportunist is a pejorative term. Just about every citizen is an “opportunist” or can trace their lineage back to one unless you are a descendent of slaves or an indigenous person.
Chelimo has done more in the service of the USA than 99% of the posters on LRC.
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Paul Chalimo is an opportunist. Not faulting him for that as the opportunities presented to him by the United States he earned and ran-with-it.
To rehash… US college scholarship, Nike professional contract, US Army team that enabled US citizenship free health care, salary, living and travel expenses, coaching. He is now with a different sponsor and out of the US Army. The US tax payer has very generously enabled Paul Chalimo to do what he loves. And Paul Chalimo has produced medals at worlds and Olympics for the USA.
Since the end of summer 2022 he has been living and training in Kenya.
Saying he is going home to train (in Kenya) says where home is and it is not the United States.
Given the hotbed and news that is all Kenya, I am surprised he wouldn’t stay clear of training in Kenya and live and train in the USA or part time in another country far removed from Kenya.
Opportunist is a pejorative term. Just about every citizen is an “opportunist” or can trace their lineage back to one unless you are a descendent of slaves or an indigenous person.
Chelimo has done more in the service of the USA than 99% of the posters on LRC.