Is the Tokyo track short? ... Update: Track designed admits it's juiced

Yeah, the track is obv new tech and it sucks. Keep the track and tech about the same from the 80’s and just let producerers improve in the material, not a whole different construction (propulsive shoes with spring function, trampoline tracks).

cramberrys wrote:

Keep the track and tech about the same from the 80’s...

Why 80s?

They should have the olympics at my local track: asphault with some cracks, broken glass, potholes, and likely a couple feet in rise from one side to the other.

If I ran there vs super spikes on a super track I can't even imagine the difference. I guess from slow to not god awful. But I can run a 65. I think I'd be able to break 60 on this kind of track.

Would be interesting to compare the number of PBs in this olympics vs previous ones..too many PBs tumbling

alfamale wrote:

They should have the olympics at my local track: asphault with some cracks, broken glass, potholes, and likely a couple feet in rise from one side to the other.

If I ran there vs super spikes on a super track I can't even imagine the difference. I guess from slow to not god awful. But I can run a 65. I think I'd be able to break 60 on this kind of track.

That's just dramatic, 5 secs your not going to get a full second. Maybe twice the .25-.3 these athletes seem to be getting

I wonder if a track speed scale can be created, similar to golf green speed scales, to compare the speed of different tracks?

hurdles fan wrote:

alfamale wrote:

They should have the olympics at my local track: asphault with some cracks, broken glass, potholes, and likely a couple feet in rise from one side to the other.

If I ran there vs super spikes on a super track I can't even imagine the difference. I guess from slow to not god awful. But I can run a 65. I think I'd be able to break 60 on this kind of track.

That's just dramatic, 5 secs your not going to get a full second. Maybe twice the .25-.3 these athletes seem to be getting

1% of 60 seconds is 0.6 seconds. The scientists estimated 1-2%. I would buy a half second or more for the results we saw.

You have to consider athletes peak for the games alot of this improvement is from peaking alot is from track. Rai thought he could run 46 low before even knowing how fast this track was. He probably could have gone 46.3 atleast if he had competition but eugene is stupid fast too, which would explain why some us sprinters aren't hitting crazy prs.

paris2024hawk wrote:

This track is definitely fast, I'd say .3 secs faster than most over 400m. This is a sprint track though. If the distance times are crazy that's probably the athletes not the track.

LOL.

Have you actually run on it, or are you just acting like you have?

"A sprint track though" lololololol.

If this is a supertrack then the men's 800m final is even more embarassing

back to reality wrote:

paris2024hawk wrote:

This is a sprint track though. If the distance times are crazy that's probably the athletes not the track.

Have you actually run on it, or are you just acting like you have?

"A sprint track though" lololololol.

Honestly WTF is a sprint track that helps people run 43-52s/lap but doesn't also help people run at 55-65s/lap?

mens 100 and 200 times have been very ordinary.

The hurdlers times are coming from having two, you could even say three, great hurdlers coming together with perfect timing. This is true for both men and women.

NObody should be shocked that Warholm and Rai ran those times when they finally came up against each other. Muhammad and Syd have been upping the stakes for at least 2 straight years, every time they battle.

ETH is the only runner that is maybe a bit out of the ordinary, imo. But I don't think what she is doing is crazy. Put up a lot of these sprinters times against what they have done in the recent past, and the times make sense.

I think the only way to satisfy some people here is to run all events on cinders.

From shoe tech to track tech? What's next? Super suits?

When you're king of the world he won't have a choice

ALL the w400 qualifiers, out of a not particularly stellar field, were under 50. Has that ever happened before?

Mondo Vaportrack 2%

Trampoline track confirmed.

If we go back to barefoot on cinders, someone will come up with 4% sole injections for feet and bounceback super cinders.

"It's always SOMETHING!"

It's the same 3rd (4th?) gen track they used at Doha 2019 as a preview, remember how fast and bouncy athletes were almost complaining then? Performing well despite the heat.

Mondo has it on their website, they tweak it every couple years even just before Rio (remember all those records pre super shoes?)

http://i.imgur.com/xHCY6iB.png

http://www.mondotrack.com/mondotrackws/

https://www.worldathletics.org/news/iaaf-news/mondotrack-ws-surface-mondo-rio-london-olympi

https://www.si.com/olympics/2016/08/12/almaz-ayana-world-record-rio-2016-olympics-10000-meters-molly-huddle

https://www.fanaticalfuturist.com/2016/08/world-records-set-to-tumble-on-rio-2016s-nano-tech-track/

The tracks return energy and the shoes return energy. At some point it becomes a different sport. No longer about human performance.

You guys think the track is faster than the surface they had last time in 1964? Ridiculous that track surfaces have improved over the years right.

Also for those saying it’s short. Wouldn’t it be more noticeable in the longer races?