Warholm first man under 43?

He just took three-quarters of a second off a record that NOBODY considered "soft". Who knows what he's capable of?

Raj would crush him without hurdles.

TooCloseToHome wrote:

Raj would crush him without hurdles.

Idk about crush but I think after seeing that race, I am certain the best 400 runner in the world right now is a 2019 USC alum and it’s not Michael Norman.

I feel they will but the coaches better not leave RB off of the relay. I doubt(?) they will screw that up.

TooCloseToHome wrote:

Raj would crush him without hurdles.

Based on what? Warholm was faster to the first hurdle and pulled away a little bit late. I’m not buying that.

I think he likely is, if he runs it in too form.

Kevin young wasn't a sub 45 guy warholm ran .8 secs faster why would he be to secs faster. Warholm probably runs 44.3 and rai 44.3 still too warholmis just a slightlymore effiecent hur.

The world record wasn't bad but much softer than the 400m, just like the 400m is much softer than the 100m.

He runs like an 800 runner, definitely has the strength for it.

Sorry for the typos I'm tired. Efficient hurdler*

I would not agree with a crushing defeat but do believe Rai would beat him on the flat. KW is a more technically efficient hurdler than Rai, similar to Muhammad.

I take it Norway didn’t qualify a 4x4?

Forget the 400; Karsten can go 1:41 in the 800.

CLEAN Norse dominance.

Agreed, he's more technically proficient than Rai. There's no hesitation in his approach to the hurdles. He does not back off, hurdles and attacks the takeoffs.

usernamee wrote:

He has to be capable of a 43.5 at the absolute slowest. He could shift gears and run a 42.xx and become near the greatest track athlete of all time. Still can’t believe I just witnessed that.

I am not in the mood to research 200m P.B. for F.A.T. sub-43.51 400m men, but I am confident it is impossible to race F.A.T. 43.50 400m without at least F.A.T. sub-20.75 outdoor 200m speed. Today's 400mH performance does not prove F.A.T. sub-20.75 200m speed.

T&F utility man (200-3000)m wrote:

usernamee wrote:

He has to be capable of a 43.5 at the absolute slowest. He could shift gears and run a 42.xx and become near the greatest track athlete of all time. Still can’t believe I just witnessed that.

I am not in the mood to research 200m P.B. for F.A.T. sub-43.51 400m men, but I am confident it is impossible to race F.A.T. 43.50 400m without at least F.A.T. sub-20.75 outdoor 200m speed. Today's 400mH performance does not prove F.A.T. sub-20.75 200m speed.

I got the splits for the race by averaging Karsten's entry and exit times for the exchange zone. He was 20.5 at the slowest through 200 meters. And 31.8 at 300 meters. He literally ran sub 20.7 with hurdles in the way.

JumpsDoctor wrote:

T&F utility man (200-3000)m wrote:

I am not in the mood to research 200m P.B. for F.A.T. sub-43.51 400m men, but I am confident it is impossible to race F.A.T. 43.50 400m without at least F.A.T. sub-20.75 outdoor 200m speed. Today's 400mH performance does not prove F.A.T. sub-20.75 200m speed.

I got the splits for the race by averaging Karsten's entry and exit times for the exchange zone. He was 20.5 at the slowest through 200 meters. And 31.8 at 300 meters. He literally ran sub 20.7 with hurdles in the way.

I will allow others to give their opinions of his 200m split. If what you state is accurate, that would indicate K.W. is capable of F.A.T. sub-19.80 200m most likely. That would be sad because I do not think 400mH athletes, who spend their time studying film, working on refining technique and counting steps can naturally improve 200m speed from age 24 to age 25 as you imply. I truly hope others will state K.W. did not split 20.5 200m today.

Yours splits are wrong most likley he ran 21.80 in 46.70 and the big difference was the better finish in this race did you mean 21.5 and 32.8 because his 300m wr is 33.26 31.8 would be unrealistic.

JumpsDoctor wrote:

T&F utility man (200-3000)m wrote:

I am not in the mood to research 200m P.B. for F.A.T. sub-43.51 400m men, but I am confident it is impossible to race F.A.T. 43.50 400m without at least F.A.T. sub-20.75 outdoor 200m speed. Today's 400mH performance does not prove F.A.T. sub-20.75 200m speed.

I got the splits for the race by averaging Karsten's entry and exit times for the exchange zone. He was 20.5 at the slowest through 200 meters. And 31.8 at 300 meters. He literally ran sub 20.7 with hurdles in the way.

There is simply no way those splits are accurate because if they are it means he ran 14 and change for the final 100m and 25.4 for the final 200m which he clearly did not.

He split 21.4 at 200m and between 33.0 and 33.1 at 300m. Closes the last 100m in 12.8 - if you know what markings you are looking for on the track then it is incredibly easy to get these splits. Here is some help for you

He passes 200m at the 1:07 mark, 300m at the 1.18 mark. The first yellow relay marking you see at around the 300m point is the mark 10m before the start of the legal change zone which is of course 10m before and 10 after the 100m to go mark. So he is 30.7 at 280m

So just calm down with your splits because they are all wrong. If you want to argue just think back from his finishing time of 45.9(4) and how stupidly slow he would have had to run in the final 100 and 200m based on your first guesses.

Staring at my screen... wrote:

He just took three-quarters of a second off a record that NOBODY considered "soft". Who knows what he's capable of?

All that means is he proved NOBODY right. Take .75 off a sprint record, it was soft. Especially if someone else takes .5 off and someone else equals it.