Cranny and schweizer

MAGAtothebitterend wrote:

So when we get 0 medals in these games in any distance events are the fans just supposed to congratulate them on "a good effort" and leave it at that? This is a great example of why T&F cannot breakthrough in the mainstream here in USA... We're just supposed to be satisfied with mediocre results on the worlds biggest stage and continue supporting and lifting them up in the media when all these distance runners get their asses handed to them.

They shouldn't even expect a contract without a medal at world championships or olympics, that's how it is for East Africans and makes them the best!

Idiot. Do you remember Rio? SEVEN Olympic distance medals for the US.

Do I need to remind you of them or were you still in middle school then.

MAGAtothebitterend wrote:

We're just supposed to be satisfied with mediocre results on the worlds biggest stage and continue supporting and lifting them up in the media when all these distance runners get their asses handed to them.

They don't work for you. They don't work for any of us.

They earn their money from being popular and being sponsored by brands.

So calm tf down, lady. You don't have to be 'satisfied' with anything but you're also not owed anything by these athletes.

Wise Old Man wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

I think they actually ran well. 14:55 at 85 degrees and 90% humidity is worth well faster. Probably not a PR effort for Schweizer but certainly the best 5000 Cranny has ever run all things considered. She can probably go 14:30 low later this year if she chases it in good conditions.

So an existential question for nearly all American distance runners....what's the point? If your best is so far off a global medal, and you have no chance of every closing the talent gap, why bother? There are probably easier ways to earn a living.

For a self-described Wise Old Man, you’re clearly not all that wise.

Get off the vegan life style! The more people that hammer the Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) eating. The more that I think that the WFPB athletes are closer to the truth than the meat eating robots who can only listen to the corporate meat industry advertising giants pushing their profit agendas! Meat, fish, milk, and processed foods are making the world fat, sick and dumb, but please go ahead continue your toxic consumption of those products.

Scratch that TT 14:26 but Schweizer ran much more confident in Doha despite the race got faster earlier and she was in the second group with no chance at medals either. With the pace being aoround 15:00 most of the race today, I fully expected the Americans to be in the mix until the last kilometer.

The Elise Cranny who ran 14:48 in a paced time trial in 2020 is not the same athlete who won the Olympic Trials 5k. She's clearly better than her PR. This was a disappointing performance for her.

LetsRun26.2anon wrote:

Get off the vegan life style! The more people that hammer the Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) eating. The more that I think that the WFPB athletes are closer to the truth than the meat eating robots who can only listen to the corporate meat industry advertising giants pushing their profit agendas! Meat, fish, milk, and processed foods are making the world fat, sick and dumb, but please go ahead continue your toxic consumption of those products.

Wow, that is stunning level of incoherence, even for these communication-diseased boards. Might want to skip the kumquat-kale smoothies for a while there, bruh.

C) they're getting paid to do what they love. They'll have plenty of time later in life to get "real jobs"

They need to move on, take their college degree and work in an office. Preferably in front of a computer terminal. Then go home and binge Netflix while eating nachos. That is the life right there. Trying to race in the Olympics is dumb.

mexican food for thought wrote:

Let's also not forget, they rarely race, and love a time trial where they know testers won't be.

A small correction: At least the TT where Houlihan set a new AR had testers. USATF requires drug tests for record certification. (Emma Coburn's first AR wasn't accepted b/c there wasn't a drug tester at the meet.)

As for the other TTs, news reports say there were USATF officials at some of them. Whether those officials included drug testers is anyone's guess.

They ran well in tough conditions. Only on Lets Run could so many be so negative.

Completely agree. Then 14:26 now 14:55. Almost 30 seconds off. Do the burrito math!

Wise Old Man wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

I think they actually ran well. 14:55 at 85 degrees and 90% humidity is worth well faster. Probably not a PR effort for Schweizer but certainly the best 5000 Cranny has ever run all things considered. She can probably go 14:30 low later this year if she chases it in good conditions.

So an existential question for nearly all American distance runners....what's the point? If your best is so far off a global medal, and you have no chance of every closing the talent gap, why bother? There are probably easier ways to earn a living.

There are easier ways to make a living, but professional athlete is still one of the better ways. You get to play a game for money! I'd take it in a heartbeat if I was good enough. And anyway, Olympic medals aren't the only criteria for judging whether you succeeded in your career.

The dew point was 77. Go redline a race when the dp is that high. Most of you will never encounter weather like that. You’re sweating just walking to your car. A mile in and sweat is dripping off your eyebrows. It feels like you’re breathing through a straw. Even people that train in that weather suffer. They should have just ran their race and they would have finished higher. Trying to run with women that can run 14:10 on a good day is foolish. That weather humbles people. The dew point is 17 degrees higher than it was in Eugene. You guys seriously don’t know what hot is.

It's the heat and humidity. If you're not ready for it, it will totally compromise a race.

My kids just ran at the junior olympics in Florida and they struggled in their 3000m races. I didn't have them run in any overly hot and humidity conditions leading up to this meet.

It looks like the American pros probably spent too much time at altitude or running in cooler weather when they should have been in Florida or Texas getting some heat specific training in.

These results are typical of Jerry's training and bragging.

Remember the 2012 Oly Women's Marathon results.....Shalane was 9th and Kara was 10th. Both girls said that they would medal.

Karissa was 11th and Elise was 13th.

Jerry's Olympic results have not improved. Too many stupid time trials. go out and race the best in the world and show us how good of a coach you are.

helpful advice wrote:

The dew point was 77. Go redline a race when the dp is that high. Most of you will never encounter weather like that. You’re sweating just walking to your car. A mile in and sweat is dripping off your eyebrows. It feels like you’re breathing through a straw. Even people that train in that weather suffer. They should have just ran their race and they would have finished higher. Trying to run with women that can run 14:10 on a good day is foolish. That weather humbles people. The dew point is 17 degrees higher than it was in Eugene. You guys seriously don’t know what hot is.

yeah-if you have raced in Florida between June and September you get that feeling-thankfully the races were 5k and shorter-95 degrees and dry heat much preferable; sub-15 very solid for the conditions in Tokyo--it would have been nuts to go out at 2:50/km pace...

Wise Old Man wrote:

malarko wrote:

There are easier ways to make a living, but professional athlete is still one of the better ways. You get to play a game for money! I'd take it in a heartbeat if I was good enough. And anyway, Olympic medals aren't the only criteria for judging whether you succeeded in your career.

Ok, I would like to apologize. My comment was snarky and lame. Right now they are America's best women at the 5-10K and they are certainly deserving of respect. I was hoping for a Grant Fisher type performance from one of them, especially Cranny, and I let my disappointment get the better of me.

Manbearpig15 wrote:

It's the heat and humidity. If you're not ready for it, it will totally compromise a race.

My kids just ran at the junior olympics in Florida and they struggled in their 3000m races. I didn't have them run in any overly hot and humidity conditions leading up to this meet.

It looks like the American pros probably spent too much time at altitude or running in cooler weather when they should have been in Florida or Texas getting some heat specific training in.

Yup-Jerry should have cut out a bunch of altitude time for some training in the actual weather that they would race in-makes sense!