Thoughts regarding Su bingtian’s 9.83 run?

Ma's caterpillar juice.

It was a perfect race, a .05 sec basic pr the majority of that improvement came from the track

Armstronglivs wrote:

Ma's caterpillar juice.

Yeah I don’t doubt it… after all I can’t imagine a guy faster than Carl Lewis and almost approaching times Gatlin and Ben Johnson ran at their absolute drug fueled peak is natural.

But let’s be honest… the best designer drugs and peds aren’t coming from China. Yeah I know the Chinese make cheap crap but quality? Go to the west. Makes me wonder what sauces Jacobs, Kerley, etc are all on.

He had an incredible start. Interested in his 60m split. I’d estimate his final 40 meters was about the same in his semis and final but he just didn’t have the same explosive start in the final.

When I saw the race I was like that must be a 6.36 or better, he was gone

His PB was run with max allowable wind, That is not even close to Su who has run 9"9low several time without much wind . As far as I know he is not even the french record holder in that distance...

Yeah around half of them, notice that Su is 32 y.o and generally sprinters do not run 9"8 low for the 1st time at 32 without being on something

That is a lot of "ifs" no ?

mediocre sprinter wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Ma's caterpillar juice.

Yeah I don’t doubt it… after all I can’t imagine a guy faster than Carl Lewis and almost approaching times Gatlin and Ben Johnson ran at their absolute drug fueled peak is natural.

But let’s be honest… the best designer drugs and peds aren’t coming from China. Yeah I know the Chinese make cheap crap but quality? Go to the west. Makes me wonder what sauces Jacobs, Kerley, etc are all on.

The best drugs are everywhere, because they are the same drugs. Just as the Soviet Union doped its athletes for national prestige so will the Communist Party of China.

mediocre sprinter wrote:

But let’s be honest… the best designer drugs and peds aren’t coming from China. Yeah I know the Chinese make cheap crap but quality? Go to the west. Makes me wonder what sauces Jacobs, Kerley, etc are all on.

Hummm, pretty much every designer drug nowadays come from China, you think that they are still peasant ? They are the leading patent producer...

something in the water this year for sure

mediocre sprinter wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Ma's caterpillar juice.

Yeah I don’t doubt it… after all I can’t imagine a guy faster than Carl Lewis and almost approaching times Gatlin and Ben Johnson ran at their absolute drug fueled peak is natural.

Good point. It is hardly even plausible that this guy in naturally faster than Carl Lewis. I generally am not in the mind set of "they are all on drugs". But this time (9.83) just dosent seem legit, at all....

i don't want to accuse su of doping any more than i would any other 100m sprinter of any ethnicity. i'd just want to point out that we probably all thought su was "TO THE GILLS" long before he ever ran 9.83

apparently it was not to the gills, at least.

impressive result.

YouAreCoevett wrote:

mediocre sprinter wrote:

But let’s be honest… the best designer drugs and peds aren’t coming from China. Yeah I know the Chinese make cheap crap but quality? Go to the west. Makes me wonder what sauces Jacobs, Kerley, etc are all on.

Hummm, pretty much every designer drug nowadays come from China, you think that they are still peasant ? They are the leading patent producer...

It's been this way for years, Sarms were openly distributed by greedy manufactures. The current Opiod crisis is partially the result of corrupt manufacturers in China selling to anybody with access to a Bitcoin processor.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

He had an incredible start. Interested in his 60m split. I’d estimate his final 40 meters was about the same in his semis and final but he just didn’t have the same explosive start in the final.

His start in his semi was .142 and in the final .167 so a difference of .025 while the final result was a difference of .150. So while the start was not as good the main difference (and this was obvious from the race) he didn't hit his drive phase nearly as quickly as he did in the semi, where he was free and clear of the field after the first 50 meters. He didn't have the closing speed to catch up after that.

Everyone is in agreement that the tracks and spikes are improved from the ‘80s…how much? Maybe .05-.1. This was the perfect race for Su he ran out of his body for 60 meters and fought every step after.

In response to lemaitre, he’s the fastest white guy ever. Let’s see when a white sprinter dips under 9.9 or 9.85, if ever. After all many letsrun guys believe white sprinters don’t dope and this is why they are slower?

I like how the OP tried to pose as neutral, whereas he clearly is pointing finger and accusing the Chinese athlete of something. If he is really neutral, he should've said Jacob and Baker were both onto something since one ran 9.80 faster than Su and another ran 9.83 just as fast as Su

Being Chinese and running under 10 seconds is enough information to implicate him. He's on some cocktail alright. That Italian guy is the most obvious PEDer of them all though.

well speaking from past experiences I don't see the Chinese sprint team as being more implicated than others. Speaking of US alone, we got Tyson Gay, Gatlin, and list goes on...Coleman is not in Olympics this because missing drug test this year (you know why); Canada got Ben Johnson....(yeah I know Chinese doping record was abysmmal in the 90s, but so was East Germany and America in the 80s---plus their doping record occured in swimming or weightlifting where they had the chance to gold, and Chinese were never even that good in track and field, not to mention 100m, so they probably didn't even care to dope because they didn't think they can win lmao). If you look at WADA report, the top doping countries right now are Italy, France, United States, Brazil and Russia

so whoever runs under 10 and not blacks certainly dope, there are now five Asian runners doing sub-10 (speaking of which, who are all present in this Olympics running 4 100 relay tomorrow ) and they dope lmao? Does Leimatre also dope running 9.92 and 19.80? Does Italian Tortu dope running 9.99? We're going to have Matt Boling running sub 10 legal soon, so he is sure to dope by your logic