Runner10287 wrote:
I feel bad for anyone who got the ineffective vaccine thinking it would make it so they wouldn’t have to worry about competing. Makes you wonder why even bother if you will still be subjected to the unnecessary protocols.
for the vast majority of athletes all they gotta do is spit in a test tube each morning
citation needed wrote:
koyPond wrote:
It’s not a bad take if it is factual. Look up the numbers yourself if you don’t believe it.
hahahaha mate it's simple maths. vaccines don't provide 100% immunity, no one in history has claimed that. once a country gets enough vaccinated, the vaxxed deaths will outnumber unvaxxed on an absolute (but not relative) basis. hahahah
But the vaxxed deaths are said to be excluded in the .08% number and, if included, that % would be higher.
This Olympics is going to be a farce if it's top stars are kicked out. The Japanese have messed this up completely. If the NBA and NFL can have FULL SEASONS, surely a two week event can be made to happen without a hitch.
Iron Bars wrote:
This Olympics is going to be a farce if it's top stars are kicked out. The Japanese have messed this up completely. If the NBA and NFL can have FULL SEASONS, surely a two week event can be made to happen without a hitch.
the NFL and NBA weren't letting athletes who test positive play...
and the NFL is practically requiring vaccination this season, making things miserable for the unvaxxed.
hmm, can you point me to which numbers you're talking about?
the only .8% figure I can find (not the .08% you mentioned) is the % of COVID deaths among the vaccinated in this article
duck sauce wrote:
Iron Bars wrote:
This Olympics is going to be a farce if it's top stars are kicked out. The Japanese have messed this up completely. If the NBA and NFL can have FULL SEASONS, surely a two week event can be made to happen without a hitch.
the NFL and NBA weren't letting athletes who test positive play...
and the NFL is practically requiring vaccination this season, making things miserable for the unvaxxed.
Wasn't the Olympic village supposed to be a bubble?
Iron Bars wrote:
Wasn't the Olympic village supposed to be a bubble?
Athletes aren't required to stay in the village, although I'd guess Kendricks was.
He presumably just got there a couple days ago. Plenty of opportunity for exposure back in the states and not testing positive until yesterday.
Iron Bars wrote:
duck sauce wrote:
the NFL and NBA weren't letting athletes who test positive play...
and the NFL is practically requiring vaccination this season, making things miserable for the unvaxxed.
Wasn't the Olympic village supposed to be a bubble?
That's what I assumed, but didnt hear that as dogma. I did see some athletes mention they are free to roam and some have been travelling around. Many pictures without masks in groups (hello opening ceremony). Hey, I don't wear a mask often. But if I'm a delegate for the US, I'm having. Mask on for every picture as a performative exercise.
"The 28-year-old is the highest-profile athlete to be withdrawn from the Games because of COVID-19."
Are we going to just forget that Jon Rahm exists?
Man Bear Pig Man wrote:
"The 28-year-old is the highest-profile athlete to be withdrawn from the Games because of COVID-19."
Are we going to just forget that Jon Rahm exists?
Everybody on here is in the track and field bubble. I would agree that Jon Rahm is a lot more high profile.
Cornhuskerrunner wrote:
You know every athlete who has been around him at the Olympics is 💩💩their pants right now. 😷🤭
No mystery to me how he was negative and then positive. He banged a covid infected person on one of the cardboard beds. I feel no sympathy for him, because he fulfilled part of his Olympic dream ... his little guy is happy.
WiTuLo wrote:
domino2 wrote:
Being vaccinated doesn't mean you can't get it, but the symptoms are not deadly and vary rarely turns into hospitalized cases. But non-vaccinated still can have severe cases and die...so the vaccinated have to suffer because we still have to scale back everything to protect the "smart" ones who won't get it.
If everyone vaccinated, therefore reducing this to just symptoms like a common cold, we could stop restriction and isolating people even when we got it. Sam Kendricks probably would have been still been able to compete.
My hope is we could get back to that kind of world...but the non-vac's are too stubborn, and we'll be stuck in this F&#*king loop for years because of you idiots. So enjoy this endless loop because big daddy T hasn't told vaccination is for "patriots" yet.
You moran .. 'big daddy T' has a lot to do with us having vaccines at all!
This has got to be one of the most DELUSIONAL POSTS to ever grace LetsRun.
As if Trump developed the vaccine or had anything to do with it.
Pfizer avoided him and U.S. Govt funding like the PLAGUE.
Sadly, this Country is filled with idiots.
jabfee wrote:
most CVID deaths in England and many other countries are now occuring in the vaccinated
100% FALSE.
citation needed wrote:
it's a rapid antigen test with PCR confirmation – so not just a simple one-test false positive.
Bingo!
Someone knows what they're talking about.
Solid post.
The Unkle wrote:
citation needed wrote:
hahahaha mate it's simple maths. vaccines don't provide 100% immunity, no one in history has claimed that. once a country gets enough vaccinated, the vaxxed deaths will outnumber unvaxxed on an absolute (but not relative) basis. hahahah
But the vaxxed deaths are said to be excluded in the .08% number and, if included, that % would be higher.
Please support this claim/figure.
So the only way Kendricks wins a gold medal is if Mondo "Biles' it" and you know, just doesn't feel it that day. That being said just to be shi**y, I have generally felt that Sam is a class act. Watched him compete, seems like a good guy in competitions, etc. So why does it irritate me to think that he might be un-vaxed? Somebody explain this to me. Until the Olympics rolled around, I didn't really care if people chose to vax or not vax. You do your thing, I will do mine. But now that the Olympics are here, it really frustrates me that athletes may choose to not vax. I don't get it! Somebody rationalize this for me!
The Unkle wrote:
The test for Covid is bogus
The PCR test for Covid is not bogus.
It's specificity is > 99%
You're a moron.
"Dr. Finnoff said that the 83% vaccination rate estimation is based on health history questionnaires that 567 of the 613 U.S. athletes competing in the Tokyo Games submitted to the USOPC prior to arriving in Japan, according to the AP. Only 92% of the team shared their vaccination status, so the survey data are incomplete but still represent the vast majority of the team. "
That'sMyMomma wrote:
I have generally felt that Sam is a class act. Watched him compete, seems like a good guy in competitions, etc. So why does it irritate me to think that he might be un-vaxed?
Somebody explain this to me. Until the Olympics rolled around, I didn't really care if people chose to vax or not vax. You do your thing, I will do mine. But now that the Olympics are here, it really frustrates me that athletes may choose to not vax. I don't get it! Somebody rationalize this for me!
His comments posted on his IG account regarding his positive test seem to reflect a lack of understanding on Covid testing protocol and the difference between an Antigen test and a PCR test. At the end of the day, he could have also indicated that he had received the vaccine, but he did not.
It could easily be one more false positive from the notoriously unreliable PCR test!
I wonder how many circles were done on the test material. Reportedly more circles than 25-28 gives a big number of false positives. Earlier on it was normal to use up to 45 circles. I think that 35 circles are not unusual at the moment!
But this is the potential tragedy for all Olympic athletes:
You could have a false positive or you could even only be close to such a person with the consequence that everything is over.
It isn´t only Cole Hocker who has a risk, but everyone has whether vaccinated or not, whether having had the virus or not.
The decision to go forward with the Olympic Games under these conditions seems very questionable.