Tunusian teen swimmer, Ahmed Hafnaoui, swims 6 s PB to take gold... has Covid made these Olympics a sham?

Armstronglivs wrote:

God's will? That clearly rules out drugs then.

You know the history of this guy and how he ended?

That will recall you how you are weak and not mock (or underestimate) other people believes.

Ghost1, your suggestion that an elite athlete's Muslim values serves as some assurance of ethical validity in their sporting performance seems somewhat at odds with what is known of the many North African track and field endurance athletes who keep getting caught cheating. Their are also a sizeable batch of Kenyan athletes who have moved to Muslim nations, changed their names to Muslim names and - guess what - they too get caught cheating at sport. Oh, I think these nation hoppers received some sort of cash rewards for moving nation but I doubt that such grubby aspects impinged on their higher calling.

I bought a t-shirt a few years ago from Under Armour. On the chest it says “Beware the Underdog”. And the Olympics brings that out of those underdogs. Until there is a test result or other evidence, innocent until proven otherwise. I love the (legal) underdogs and will applaud them until there is evidence to suggest rules violations.

kiowavt wrote:

I bought a t-shirt a few years ago from Under Armour. On the chest it says “Beware the Underdog”. And the Olympics brings that out of those underdogs. Until there is a test result or other evidence, innocent until proven otherwise. I love the (legal) underdogs and will applaud them until there is evidence to suggest rules violations.

Yeah let's consider the 17-year-old Alaskan who won gold as well. No idea about this Tunisian, but teens do crazy thing at the Olympics

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

kiowavt wrote:

I bought a t-shirt a few years ago from Under Armour. On the chest it says “Beware the Underdog”. And the Olympics brings that out of those underdogs. Until there is a test result or other evidence, innocent until proven otherwise. I love the (legal) underdogs and will applaud them until there is evidence to suggest rules violations.

Yeah let's consider the 17-year-old Alaskan who won gold as well. No idea about this Tunisian, but teens do crazy thing at the Olympics

clearly a bigger doper. She cut 3s off her PR in the last 9 months in a race that takes 1/3rd the time.

Or it could be someone finishing puberty and hitting thier physical prime. It isnt like 18 year old swimmers winning is a rare event..

How is it racist? You do know Tunisia is considered white right? North Africa has always been white/Islamic.

ddidididid wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Yeah let's consider the 17-year-old Alaskan who won gold as well. No idea about this Tunisian, but teens do crazy thing at the Olympics

clearly a bigger doper. She cut 3s off her PR in the last 9 months in a race that takes 1/3rd the time.

Or it could be someone finishing puberty and hitting thier physical prime. It isnt like 18 year old swimmers winning is a rare event..

She qualified for the Olympic team swimming 1:05.28 and won gold swimming 1.04.95. You want to believe this is the same progression? I'm 100% open to being convinced she's also doping, or convince me his progression is normal, but I don't see these two as being equivalent. But, thank you - I do not know if he did hit a growth spurt recently which would have helped him suddenly improve, this is true. Maybe it really is a feel good story. The race itself was great to watch, and my jaded disbelieving heart would like to believe in a clean lane 8 gold medal victory...

The lack of the usual flow of competition may be an equalizer of sorts at the Olympics. The big disadvantage lower level athletes from small have at the Olympics have is that they do not get to compete on a high level as much as the powerhouse countries (US, Australia, etc.). COVID has disrupted the competition schedules for everyone so US athletes are knocked back a bit and are not as race sharp as they would normally be.

As for doping, I have to admit that it was the first thing I thought when he went out and took an early lead and held on for a big win. It reminded me of the Turkish 1500 m runners in the 2012 women's final. There are upsets and then there are "what just happened here?" races.

she went from 1.07.57 to 1.04.95. You think that is different than 3:49 to 3:43? why do you think the smaller performance gain is the suspicious one?

i have no clue if either one is doping. I would like to think both peaked for the first time in two years and set big PRs.

We should all just realize, that yes, they are all doping. The Americans, the Alaskans, and yes the Tunesians. All of them regardless of race, color, religion (or lack thereof), it is after all God's will. Praise God, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Jehovah, etc...