Centro's chances in Tokyo = super bleak

KaareV wrote:

These threads are almost identical to the threads discussing Galen. "He's too slow, his PR is only 3:30" "But just look at all these 2:03-2:04 guys" wah wah wah. Then where are you clowns when Centro and Galen WIN MEDALS?!?!?

People weren't saying Galen was too slow. His 10K PR is faster than Mo's and he had the 4th fastest time in the world in 10K in 2011 (year before London). Some people were saying he didn't have a fast enough kick, and that was mostly true. People are saying something very different about Centro.

Jgt11 wrote:

I assume Cheriyut does the strategy he employed in the circuit. He goes out hard in the beginning for about 700-800 then checks to see how close everyone else is. If he had a gap he would push harder. If runners were still close to him Cheruiyot would relax and settle back into the pack, preparing for the final 400.

Yes. Exactly. And now Makhloufi is out of the game. He says due to a knee injury.

We should thank Centro for winning in Rio in a time that is closer to a 4:10 mile than it is to a 4:00 mile. This hopefully will be the end of these chicken dung sit and kick races. I've got a feeling the rest of the world is saying 'we're not going to lose to some inferior runner by running the only race he can run'.

Take away that fluke Rio win and Centro has won nothing since 2013 and I'm including that watered down indoor World title in 2016 (in yet another shameful sit and kick race).

gumball wrote:

KaareV wrote:

These threads are almost identical to the threads discussing Galen. "He's too slow, his PR is only 3:30" "But just look at all these 2:03-2:04 guys" wah wah wah. Then where are you clowns when Centro and Galen WIN MEDALS?!?!?

People weren't saying Galen was too slow. His 10K PR is faster than Mo's and he had the 4th fastest time in the world in 10K in 2011 (year before London). Some people were saying he didn't have a fast enough kick, and that was mostly true. People are saying something very different about Centro.

You have a short memory. In 2016 one of the biggest knocks against Galen was his 2:06 PR (compared to the 2:03-2:04 PRs of the East Africans). Quite similar to people knocking Centro for his 3:30/3:49 PRs. But Galen showed up and won the bronze medal in a race including the GOAT and several other fantastic marathoners. Centro had the perfect race and won the gold against some of the fastest men in history. While nothing is guaranteed, there is no real reason to think either of them are incapable of medaling or even winning it all this year.

What's "shameful" about a sit and kick race?

gumball wrote:

KaareV wrote:

These threads are almost identical to the threads discussing Galen. "He's too slow, his PR is only 3:30" "But just look at all these 2:03-2:04 guys" wah wah wah. Then where are you clowns when Centro and Galen WIN MEDALS?!?!?

People weren't saying Galen was too slow. His 10K PR is faster than Mo's and he had the 4th fastest time in the world in 10K in 2011 (year before London). Some people were saying he didn't have a fast enough kick, and that was mostly true. People are saying something very different about Centro.

I did not write that. westie boy did. But may be, just may be, Centrowitz will reach the final.

scussione wrote:

We should thank Centro for winning in Rio in a time that is closer to a 4:10 mile than it is to a 4:00 mile. This hopefully will be the end of these chicken dung sit and kick races. I've got a feeling the rest of the world is saying 'we're not going to lose to some inferior runner by running the only race he can run'.

Take away that fluke Rio win and Centro has won nothing since 2013 and I'm including that watered down indoor World title in 2016 (in yet another shameful sit and kick race).

Take away winning the OG and the world indoor title. And the American outdoor titles in 2018 and 2016 and 2015. And the 2015 and 2016 indoor American titles. And the guy has won nothing

The Unkle wrote:

scussione wrote:

We should thank Centro for winning in Rio in a time that is closer to a 4:10 mile than it is to a 4:00 mile. This hopefully will be the end of these chicken dung sit and kick races. I've got a feeling the rest of the world is saying 'we're not going to lose to some inferior runner by running the only race he can run'.

Take away that fluke Rio win and Centro has won nothing since 2013 and I'm including that watered down indoor World title in 2016 (in yet another shameful sit and kick race).

Take away winning the OG and the world indoor title. And the American outdoor titles in 2018 and 2016 and 2015. And the 2015 and 2016 indoor American titles. And the guy has won nothing

Winning a US title is like winning a Triple A batting championship. Americans overrate their runners so badly it's laughable.

Tamburlaine wrote:

What's "shameful" about a sit and kick race?

Haaaahaaaa....the country that prides itself on Steve Prefontaine suddenly is accepting of someone who leeches off a pace? I guess after over 100 years of failure you satisfy pretty easily.

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Kerr is in a tremendous shape at the moment.

The mental gymnastics to hype Kerr are out of control.

Race A: Athlete A gets paced absolutely perfect with metronomic splits through 600m to go with a 3:30 possible with a solo kick. Slows slightly to run 3:31.5.

Race B: Athlete B gets taken out 2 seconds fast (54.6) through 440 and then is brought through at slow tempo through 600m to go. Manages to pick it up a tiny bit to run 3:32.2 equivalent.

Athlete A has no international credentials.

Athlete B has won a gold medal in the Olympics and two international medals.

A is Kerr, B is Centro and I have no reason to believe Kerr is actually in "tremendous shape" relative to Centro. They're both in very good shape obviously. But I'd argue Race B was the better performance.

Well hello there.

Just like predicted: 3:33 (3:49) Centro has nothing to show on the international level.

scussione wrote:

We should thank Centro for winning in Rio in a time that is closer to a 4:10 mile than it is to a 4:00 mile. This hopefully will be the end of these chicken dung sit and kick races. I've got a feeling the rest of the world is saying 'we're not going to lose to some inferior runner by running the only race he can run'.

Take away that fluke Rio win and Centro has won nothing since 2013 and I'm including that watered down indoor World title in 2016 (in yet another shameful sit and kick race).

+1

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Kerr is in a tremendous shape at the moment.

The mental gymnastics to hype Kerr are out of control.

Race A: Athlete A gets paced absolutely perfect with metronomic splits through 600m to go with a 3:30 possible with a solo kick. Slows slightly to run 3:31.5.

Race B: Athlete B gets taken out 2 seconds fast (54.6) through 440 and then is brought through at slow tempo through 600m to go. Manages to pick it up a tiny bit to run 3:32.2 equivalent.

Athlete A has no international credentials.

Athlete B has won a gold medal in the Olympics and two international medals.

A is Kerr, B is Centro and I have no reason to believe Kerr is actually in "tremendous shape" relative to Centro. They're both in very good shape obviously. But I'd argue Race B was the better performance.

And look which one made the final.

WE F-ING TOLD YOU SO!

Swedish Pride wrote:

WE F-ING TOLD YOU SO!

And they deleted the Wall Of Shame thread...

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Swedish Pride wrote:

WE F-ING TOLD YOU SO!

And they deleted the Wall Of Shame thread...

The brojos probably worried they would end up on it

scussione wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Take away winning the OG and the world indoor title. And the American outdoor titles in 2018 and 2016 and 2015. And the 2015 and 2016 indoor American titles. And the guy has won nothing

Winning a US title is like winning a Triple A batting championship. Americans overrate their runners so badly it's laughable.

If it's so damn easy, you go do it, tough guy. A win is a win is a win.