If covid looked like ebola, would there be vaccine hesitation?

InquiringMinds wrote:

Got to thinking, if covid caused people to end up like this:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gettyimages.com%2Fphotos%2Febola-patient&psig=AOvVaw1tBgLip8v-jnY-61YVQXs-&ust=1627063660046000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAgQjRxqFwoTCIiCpc6i9_ECFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

what percent of people would be say they don't want the vaccine, refuse to wear a mask, or take other precautions? How "bad" does a disease need to look for someone to want take precautions? Does blood and gore have to be involved?

Is it because the outward signs of covid pictures of people being intubated but we don't see evidence of the disease on their bodies that it just doesn't seem like it's that serious?

No, I think it's the case fatality rate (CFR) of Covid that differentiates it from Ebola and, in people's minds, renders it more like the flu. "evidence on their bodies" doesn't seem to be a factor, or we'd all be staying inside demanding the government provide free vaccines for acne, rashes, rosacea, eczema, psoriasis, etc.

More people would get the vaccine, but there would still be substantial vaccine hesitancy all for the sake of "owning the libs"

But it doesn't. And that's why people are choosing not to inject an experimental substance into their bodies. It's called prudential judgment.

I suspect the “death is actually good” crowd might change their tune but who knows! Lots of LRC posters seem pretty hard set in that belief.

anti.marxist wrote:

But it doesn't. And that's why people are choosing not to inject an experimental substance into their bodies. It's called prudential judgment.

But what if it did? and the case fatality race was the same? I'm wondering at what point does the tide turn and there would be a demand for the vaccine and that the government to something.

I think that part of the controversy about covid is that it just doesn't look that bad. measles and polio look worse so while there are vaccine hold outs, there are far fewer.

Ebola?

Jesus dude. It's a flu that hits 80 year obese people extra hard.

Enough BS already

Comparing to Ebola? Really? You need help.

Ebola... wow!

Would you rather have sniffles or have your skin peel off? Jeez dude. I don't know. Tough choice.

Ebola kills between 25% and 90% of those infected. I think the answer is pretty obvious here...

there would be zero, because all of this anti-vax stuff can be summed up with one phrase: "f*** you, i got mine." there is absolutely zero sense of the greater good among these people. they only care about themselves. if ebola were ravaging the planet right now instead of covid they would be running over people in their chevy suburbans to get "injected with experimental drugs."

There’s a solid chance we get an Ebola vaccine out of mRNA technology so we might get an answer here soon.

I wouldn’t expect the uptake to be much higher. Some people are really committed to the bit that they can’t put anything “experimental” into their bodies in between meals of Flamin’ Hot Doritos and other ultra-processed foods that “haven’t been tested for long-term complications.”

Wrong, part of the controversy is it has a low mortality rate. Ebola has an extremely high mortality rate. Has nothing to do with how bad it looks. Ebola kills around half of those infected. People are more likely to do what ever they are being told will help if they think the risk of death is higher. Also what makes Ebola scary is that a perfectly healthy human has a high chance of passing away. Also I believe people should be allowed to choose if they want to be vaccinated. I am vaccinated and could care less if you are not. Your choice and with a vaccine out I am not worried about my family members who are at risk.

If Covid was as bad as ebola, then there wouldn't be much disagreement across the board, but it's not so there is.

2600 bro wrote:

I suspect the “death is actually good” crowd might change their tune but who knows! Lots of LRC posters seem pretty hard set in that belief.

If covid had a high death rate in the "healthy" population, then I would be scared. But it's not. It affects the fat, diseased and old, who were already at a much higher risk of death before covid.

Maybe funnel some of this misplaced anger on the people who created and spread the virus as well as the politicians and bureaucrats that covered it up for political gain, instead of normal people who don't want to wear masks that are ineffective and take vaccines they don't need. It's amazing that you don't see how you were manipulated to turn against your fellow citizens by the same politicians who caused this entire mess in the first place. It's been proven that Fauci's actions caused the pandemic by funding the Wuhan lab. Why do we never see you talking about that?

It is interesting to note however that one of the largest Ebola outbreaks (2014-2016 in West Africa) had only 28, 652 cases and 11,325 deaths. Obviously, Ebola doesn't spread as easily as Covid does as it is not airborne

Steve prefontainee wrote:

Ebola?

Jesus dude. It's a flu that hits 80 year obese people extra hard.

Enough BS already

Nope! It's not a "flu". That is just factually incorrect. It has killed over 4.1 million people, many of whom are not 80 or obese. For those who survive, some of them have lasting damage to organs including to heart and lungs. Some had to have organ transplants. Some lost limbs. MANY have had mental illness and a whole host of other problems.

Your minimizing this virus shows your ignorance.

More people would get vaccinated if it was Ebola . If you look now the most vulnerable are getting vaccinated . 90% of those 65+ have had 1 shot. Some of the young don’t view the trade off worth it.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

I'm unvaccinated because the virus resembles a bad case of the flu and I'm young so I won't die from it. Also, I don't know much about mrna Vaccines or how we're supposed to know if they're safe long term.

wejo wrote:

More people would get vaccinated if it was Ebola . If you look now the most vulnerable are getting vaccinated . 90% of those 65+ have had 1 shot. Some of the young don’t view the trade off worth it.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Duh. Who's most vulnerable with covid? Fat old people. Who's most vulnerable with ebola? Everyone. The comparison is so stupid.

Disko Eric wrote:

Duh. Who's most vulnerable with covid? Fat old people. Who's most vulnerable with ebola? Everyone. The comparison is so stupid.

I'm talking about IF ebola had the same characteristics as covid. Same CFR, same spread, statistics, vulnerable population, etc. Obviously the disease is much more lethal.

But what if COVID, in its current state and statistics, caused you to bleed through your eyeballs or nose or rot your skin off but killed and injured at the same rate, would this change the mentality of the population with regards to lockdowns, masks, and vaccines?