The current billionaire 11 minute joy rides are nothing compared to 1969!

I'm sure they're devastated that you aren't excited

Give it time. The 1969 missions were about big-dicking the Soviets. There are no Soviets to big-dick at the moment, so things have been moving slowly. But both SpaceX and Blue Origin have plans to go to abroad.

And for what it's worth, whatever they don't pay in taxes does end up getting recycled into the economy through the material/labor costs of these projects. That's probably a better use for the money than the govt had in mind.

Since 1972 mankind has gone no further than the ISS which is 240 miles above the surface of the earth. The moon is 240'000 miles above the surface of the earth.

The good news is, there is a new Moon landing program called Artemis (of which one of the goals is putting a woman on the moon) and obviously with the technology of the year 2021 being so exponentially better than 1969-72, this should be a mere formality in the coming years.

valjean wrote:

Give it time. The 1969 missions were about big-dicking the Soviets. There are no Soviets to big-dick at the moment, so things have been moving slowly. But both SpaceX and Blue Origin have plans to go to abroad.

And for what it's worth, whatever they don't pay in taxes does end up getting recycled into the economy through the material/labor costs of these projects. That's probably a better use for the money than the govt had in mind.

"Big-dicking" is exactly what we are seeing today. Its a filthy rich billionaire's 11 minute amusement park ride.

Give it time. SpaceX will be bringing people around, and possibly on, the moon, for a small fraction of the cost of the Apollo project (and no cost to you). Starlink will be revolutionary and immediately beneficial. One of them will probably get to Mars. The whiners and haters are just that.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

Since 1972 mankind has gone no further than the ISS which is 240 miles above the surface of the earth. The moon is 240'000 miles above the surface of the earth.

The good news is, there is a new Moon landing program called Artemis (of which one of the goals is putting a woman on the moon) and obviously with the technology of the year 2021 being so exponentially better than 1969-72, this should be a mere formality in the coming years.

Because the moon landings were fake and we will never get to the moon. It's been sixty years and is the only technology where humankind has regressed back to infancy. In 1969 some lady on a legal pad did all the calculations for them. The lunar lander was constructed with tinsel Christmas wrap and black construction paper. It was believable in the Star Trek days of the 1960s. It defies all believability today. I can't believe we've been able to keep up this charade.

How unpatriotic! How dare ye!

Are you suggesting that in 1969, with computing power that in todays terms is about equal with that of an expensive refrigerator, the mighty USA sent men 1000 times further away from the earth than we have done in the last 49, flew them through magnetic fields and radiation belts of infinite magnitude, landed them on the moon in that magnificent lunar lander covered in state of the art reflective tinfoil material, all the while beaming footage back to earth through the radiation and magnetic fields and it was all f---ing fake?!

You conspiracy (alternate ie. based on not just believing what you saw and were told on the television and newspaper) theorist nutjob!

I mean did you not see what we all did?! I've seen the footage buddy. I was told we did it man - admittedly by NASA, (the Space Agency that invested an inflation adjusted 257 billion dollars into the Apollo program) that they made it so who the f--k am I to dare question that? This is America - I think what I'm told. Baby.

And as I said - these new Artemis missions are going to show just how crazy all you "conspiracy" theorists are man - it's the year 2021 and it's gonna just be a mere formality to get up there - especially with 35 billion dollars (that definitely couldn't be appropriated elsewhere like education, homelessness, helping people f-ed over by the pandemic) behind it.

Still don't believe me check this out.

A f-ing website dude. If you don't believe it now there is something wrong with you. Get that tin-foil hat off and be a patriot.

Edgy conspiracies are fun but we haven't had reason to spend billions going back to the moon, so we haven't.

Believe it or not "computing power" is not the limiting factor in getting people into orbit so the fact that your phone could crunch all the numbers is kinda irrelevant.

Yeah the moon is 1000x further away than geosynchronous orbit but so what, once you reach escape velocity it doesn't take much to go further.

What's happening now is private companies are getting the costs down to where they can do it without the infinite budget of the US treasury.

Didn't take long for Tin Foil Hat Moron Guy to emerge.

roller coaster wrote:

Edgy conspiracies are fun but we haven't had reason to spend billions going back to the moon, so we haven't.

Believe it or not "computing power" is not the limiting factor in getting people into orbit so the fact that your phone could crunch all the numbers is kinda irrelevant.

Yeah the moon is 1000x further away than geosynchronous orbit but so what, once you reach escape velocity it doesn't take much to go further.

What's happening now is private companies are getting the costs down to where they can do it without the infinite budget of the US treasury.

Bezo made billions helped by a financial system where he went years paying no taxes and denied workers decent working conditions. His trip to outer space was basically fake. He went up 68 miles and barely scratched it.

The feat accomplished in 1969 was completely amazing. There were so many obstacles that had to be surmounted. The adults in 1969, were superior in many ways to the adults of today.

Its funny that many adults, like some of the posters here, still can't believe we did it. The adults back in 1969 would have gladly been vaccinated to help our country. Our country was far from perfect but at that time we really were that greatest country in the world.

roller coaster wrote:

Edgy conspiracies are fun but we haven't had reason to spend billions going back to the moon, so we haven't.

Believe it or not "computing power" is not the limiting factor in getting people into orbit so the fact that your phone could crunch all the numbers is kinda irrelevant.

Yeah the moon is 1000x further away than geosynchronous orbit but so what, once you reach escape velocity it doesn't take much to go further.

What's happening now is private companies are getting the costs down to where they can do it without the infinite budget of the US treasury.

Totally bro and I am glad I have an astrophysicist here to back me up. Just set the record straight here man and tell all these nutjobs about your understanding of escape velocity, magnetic fields and Van Allen radiation belts. And duh, of course it's not about computing power - these rockets, shuttles and lunar landers basically fly and orientate themselves - any idiot knows that.

Totally with you on edgy conspiracies man - anybody that chooses to come to a point of view other than what they are told - no matter what the circumstances, should be labelled what they are - a conspiracy theorist a$$wipe and should be completely marginalized for it.

The best thing is, now we do have a reason to go back to the moon (people want to) and the government is investing in it (project Artemis) and so given that all the technology and knowledge exists from the 60's and it's so much cheaper - we should really have no issues doing this in the next what 3-4 years?

I can't wait for the US government to show up all these loonies and fake-news believers for who they really are....

truth of it wrote:

Its funny that many adults, like some of the posters here, still can't believe we did it. The adults back in 1969 would have gladly been vaccinated to help our country. Our country was far from perfect but at that time we really were that greatest country in the world.

100% - unbelievable man. Simply unbelievable. America showed it was the greatest country in the world by embarrassing those stupid Soviets and showing the citizens of this great land that there was nothing to fear in the cold war because they were so technologically advanced. I mean the Soviets were at one point so advanced to the Americans, but Johnny-F stepped in, pumped the team up and in a matter of months they had leapfrogged those once advanced commie b@stards and demoralized them into completely giving up - never to even bother attempting it again.

End of the day I saw the same footage and coverage we all did. That footage provided solely by NASA - no need for anyone else to capture that great moment and how could they anyway, those pathetic quitters. USA, USA, USA....

You actually posted,"its not about computing power, these rockets, shuttles and lunar landers actually fly and oriente themselves - any idiot knows that"

How do you think they do that? ....... Advanced computers

truth of it wrote:

You actually posted,"its not about computing power, these rockets, shuttles and lunar landers actually fly and oriente themselves - any idiot knows that"

How do you think they do that? ....... Advanced computers

Nah man - it's just about hitting that escape velocity, busting through the geosynchronous orbit and then bee-lining it straight to the moon. The other guy who posted her can explain it - he knows.

roller coaster wrote:

Give it time. SpaceX will be bringing people around, and possibly on, the moon, for a small fraction of the cost of the Apollo project (and no cost to you). Starlink will be revolutionary and immediately beneficial. One of them will probably get to Mars. The whiners and haters are just that.

Richard Branson can't run a train operator or an airline without delays, cancelations and government bailouts, Tesla stock is kept afloat by Elon Musk's tweets, and Jeff Bezos has just spent 4 minutes at about half the altitude Yuri Gagarin spent 90 minutes at in 1961

And they all aim to spend LESS money on their projects to make them financially successful?

Apparently these are the dudes to lead us in to a new space age...

valjean wrote:

Give it time. The 1969 missions were about big-dicking the Soviets. There are no Soviets to big-dick at the moment, so things have been moving slowly. But both SpaceX and Blue Origin have plans to go to abroad.

And for what it's worth, whatever they don't pay in taxes does end up getting recycled into the economy through the material/labor costs of these projects. That's probably a better use for the money than the govt had in mind.

Yeah, that's a really good point. Imagine how much better off we'd all be if nobody paid any taxes!

The moon landings were fake. Notice that NASA nor Russia have even tried to send a non-human organism into space past Earth's orbit in the years since Apollo.

Because NASA knows that not only would a human die, from radiation, but so too would a monkey or a dog or even a cockroach.

Perhaps the reason NASA is funding all these billionaires and their space projects, is so that the next time USA fakes a manned mission to the moon, NASA can blame the billionaires for any possible fakery.

It's laughable to believe that NASA has simply been soooo concerned about saving a few bucks, and THAT'S why no organism has ever left Earth's orbit in the last 49 years.

You need to be in a straight jacket.

healterseltzer wrote:

The moon landings were fake. Notice that NASA nor Russia have even tried to send a non-human organism into space past Earth's orbit in the years since Apollo.

Because NASA knows that not only would a human die, from radiation, but so too would a monkey or a dog or even a cockroach.

Perhaps the reason NASA is funding all these billionaires and their space projects, is so that the next time USA fakes a manned mission to the moon, NASA can blame the billionaires for any possible fakery.

It's laughable to believe that NASA has simply been soooo concerned about saving a few bucks, and THAT'S why no organism has ever left Earth's orbit in the last 49 years.

Yeah, couldn't be that there is pretty much no point in sending organisms out there. Nah! Must have been a conspiracy!

Serious question - do you have any (non-zero) IQ? Any at all?