Centro American Record Attempt - 7/24

El G broke the mile World Record in July of 1999 and won the World Championships 1500m in August that year in 3:27.

Kiprop ran his 3:26 PR in July of 2015 and won WC in August that year.

There are plenty of examples of people running fast before a championship and doing well at that championship.

Now in Centro's PR year he only finished 8th at WC, but he was 10th in the race where he ran his PR.

won't come close.

Won't get within a kessler of the record.

Star wrote:

El G broke the mile World Record in July of 1999 and won the World Championships 1500m in August that year in 3:27.

Kiprop ran his 3:26 PR in July of 2015 and won WC in August that year.

There are plenty of examples of people running fast before a championship and doing well at that championship.

Now in Centro's PR year he only finished 8th at WC, but he was 10th in the race where he ran his PR.

El G in 1999: mile world record and world champs were 6 weeks apart.

Kiprop in 2015: 5 weeks apart.

Find me someone who PR'd at the mile/1500m 9 days before the champs/oly

Allow me to make a few points-

Centro is arguably the greatest American miler ever. To get the AR in the event takes the arguably out of it and just makes him the greatest we’ve ever had. Period. It’s the only thing he doesn’t have on his resume.

He’s in great shape after several years injured and this is likely his best/ last shot at the record.

He needs an Olympic tune up and he can do this without any travel or hassle.

I think this is a great move for him. I actually think with good pacing (which bowerman consistently nails) he has a tremendous shot at the record and I would wager he runs between 3:45 high and 3:47 mid.

olymaratrialstop100 wrote:

I think Centro is not much of a political ponderer... he's likely not much of a poll watcher or news junkie either. video games on the other hand; ask him anything and I bet he'd have an answer

I concur

nznn wrote:

Did we ever hear what happened in his mile time trial at altitude? I looked but found nothing.

3:00 1200 at altitude?

Swedish Pride wrote:

Can you recover in 9 days, yes of course. But should you have to, is another question.

Well, Coe went through all four rounds (final included) of the 800m (in which he won silver) in the 1984 OG before the three rounds (final included) of the 1500m (in which he won gold).

Date, Time, Round for the 800m, Los Angeles Olympic Games:

Friday, 3 August 1984 16:40 Round 1

Saturday, 4 August 1984 17:40 Quarterfinals

Sunday, 5 August 1984 18:05 Semifinals

Monday, 6 August 1984 17:50 Final

Date, Time, Round for the 1500m, Los Angeles Olympic Games:

Thursday, 9 August 1984 16:15 Round 1

Friday, 10 August 1984 17:40 Semifinals

Saturday, 11 August 1984 18:55 Final

Here is the current schedule for the 2021 Tokyo Olympic Games:

Start Time Location Event Status

Tue, 3 Aug

9:05 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 1

Tue, 3 Aug

9:16 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 2

Tue, 3 Aug

9:27 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Round 1 - Heat 3

__________________________________

Thu, 5 Aug

20:00 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Semi-Final 1

Thu, 5 Aug

20:10 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Semi-Final 2

__________________________________

Sat, 7 Aug

20:40 Olympic Stadium - Track

Men's 1500m Final

That provides some perspective.

pre maturing wrote:

Do they drug test at Jerry's time trials?

If he wants a ratified record then yes they will.

Star wrote:

Ryan Foreman wrote:

It seems a strange thing for Centro to do at this time. Is this an indicator of what he expects in the Olympic race? Is Centro preparing himself for the Kenyans to go out at a blistering pace from start to finish to break the field?

Is it a bad thing to prepare for anything?

The rounds of the US Trials prepared him for the Olympic rounds and the usual sit and kick.

A hard all out mile effort will prepare him for a situation where they take it out hard from the gun.

I didn't say it was necessarily bad. Just that it was strange. At this late date I don't believe that Centro needs (or at least should need) to spark the competitive juices. Also, I have never heard of somebody doing a record attempt so soon before the Olympics. I remember watching Bekele do a world record attempt at Hayward in an Olympic year but I think that was at the Prefontaine meet a good 2-3 months before the Olympics.

The only way this makes sense is if Centro anticipates the Olympic race itself being strange in that it will not be a sit and kick as it typical.

This thread shows how little many of you know about the sport. Centro is racing a mile. This is not a big deal either way. So much inane analysis over a mile. This is not like Cheptegei racing a half marathon shortly before the Olympics. Most of you have not raced at a high level and so you have no clue.

Right.

It's just a mile.

A real hard quality track workout takes more out of you than one times one mile hard.

No matter how hard you run it, you recuperate to 100% within 2 days if you're pretty fit.

9 days is forever.

Troothsayer wrote:

This thread shows how little many of you know about the sport. Centro is racing a mile. This is not a big deal either way. So much inane analysis over a mile. This is not like Cheptegei racing a half marathon shortly before the Olympics. Most of you have not raced at a high level and so you have no clue.

Well, I guess you have raced at that high of a level. Just one question "why has no one else ever done this before?"

pre maturing wrote:

Troothsayer wrote:

This thread shows how little many of you know about the sport. Centro is racing a mile. This is not a big deal either way. So much inane analysis over a mile. This is not like Cheptegei racing a half marathon shortly before the Olympics. Most of you have not raced at a high level and so you have no clue.

Well, I guess you have raced at that high of a level. Just one question "why has no one else ever done this before?"

The ignorance here is astounding. Why has nobody done what before? So Centro is time trialing a mile on July 24 and then the Olympic final is August 7th?

As one example, in 2004 Bernard Lagat ran 3:27 in Zurich on August 6th and In Athens he got the Olympic Silver Medal on August 24th. So we are talking 2.5 weeks for Lagat vs 2 weeks for Centro? And some of you clowns are acting as if something unprecedented is going on? Really?

And the 2004 Olympic 1500m Gold medalist also competed in Zurich 2.5 weeks before the Olympic final but that poor guy could only manage a slower 3:27 than Lagat. Guy named Hicham.

anonymous wasp wrote:

Allow me to make a few points-

Centro is arguably the greatest American miler ever. To get the AR in the event takes the arguably out of it and just makes him the greatest we’ve ever had. Period. It’s the only thing he doesn’t have on his resume.

He’s in great shape after several years injured and this is likely his best/ last shot at the record.

He needs an Olympic tune up and he can do this without any travel or hassle.

I think this is a great move for him. I actually think with good pacing (which bowerman consistently nails) he has a tremendous shot at the record and I would wager he runs between 3:45 high and 3:47 mid.

"Arguably the greatest American miler ever"? Arguably - no. And not having the American record is the "only thing he doesn't have on his resume"? How about world records in the mile and the 1500m - and the 880y - as a certain American miler had in the 60's?

Troothsayer wrote:

pre maturing wrote:

Well, I guess you have raced at that high of a level. Just one question "why has no one else ever done this before?"

The ignorance here is astounding. Why has nobody done what before? So Centro is time trialing a mile on July 24 and then the Olympic final is August 7th?

As one example, in 2004 Bernard Lagat ran 3:27 in Zurich on August 6th and In Athens he got the Olympic Silver Medal on August 24th. So we are talking 2.5 weeks for Lagat vs 2 weeks for Centro? And some of you clowns are acting as if something unprecedented is going on? Really?

Lagat was one second off his PB on that golden league race, and yes it was 15 days before the heats, almost twice as much as what Centro is attempting (9 days before heats).

So not a PB effort, and a much longer recovery.

By the way Lagat beat El G in the golden league meet, but lost to him in the OG final. So was this hard effort really worth it?

Records set before Africans were competing don't count.

he'll run 3:50.56 and go home devastated

I mean, Komen ran world records within days of each other.

If you're fit, you're fit.

And Komen's burritos weren't as advanced as what the Americans have access to now.