Quote Post. wrote:
suspicion in thr ignition wrote:
Didn’t he have COVID? If so, why would he get vaccinated? The whole point of a vaccine is to get immunity, and he’d have broader protection with having been exposed to the full virus. Not the ideal way of getting it, but if you have, the vaccine is unnecessary.
Nope this is actually not true
Only it is.
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
This doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously. That’s how stupid it is.
haha YOYO wrote:
I love how Rojo never responds to the people who absolutely destroy him in an argument, it's a good look Rojo.
Yup
fat at 27 wrote:
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
This doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously. That’s how stupid it is.
Agreed
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Quote Post. wrote:
Nope this is actually not true
Only it is.
It’s not
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
Technically you’re right, but also a huge hypocrit….it would also be better to give away more of our funding for schools, bridges , hospitals and so on to worse off countries. But you’re against that. Not a coincidence that you are using this argument here but are against helping the world any other time.
“Lacking in any scientific basis”
Bwhahahahahaha. Rojo… seriously? Care to share your credentials?
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
WTAF do you know about science? Serious question.
rojo wrote:
e h wrote:
Absolutely garbage article Rojo, I’m surprised you posted it.
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
This sounds like parenting 101: "you better eat your vegetables because there are starving children in Africa."
Cole H. not being vaccinated is not helping any vulnerable old people around the world. This is why your argument is garbage, Rojo.
rojo wrote:
e h wrote:
Absolutely garbage article Rojo, I’m surprised you posted it.
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
🙄🙄🙄
Really, there is no excuse if you are an American. It's pretty dumb to think that I as American should give up my vaccine for an elderly from a country that doesn't have it yet -- things just don't work that way.
It stops the spread to the vulnerable.
Keeps the hospitals from being overwhelmed.
Every vulnerable American should already have a vaccine.
Allows us to have a health economy.
rojo wrote:
Billy Madison wrote:
This has to be one of the stupidest takes ever written on this website, and I've been reading since the beginning.
Not just stupid, but extremely irresponsible.
Get those clicks , though.
You think it's irresponsible that I"m calling on the world's youth to turn down the vaccine until we can save the most vulnerable - namely the world's elderly?
I think you are the one that is being irresponsible.
I think it's just the opposite. People talk about white privilege and1st world privilege. The idea that we'd use a potentially life-saving vaccine on one of America's healthiest people in Cole Hocker ris absolutely disgusting if you really think about it. A senior citizen in Mexico or Kenya etc needs it much more
America First.
We’ve already shipped millions of vaccines overseas. We must look after our citizens and economy first so we can return to normal. Then yes we do have a responsibility to help globally more.
But it is NOT true to suggest we cannot and are not doing both at the same time.
67 Track 29 wrote:
rojo wrote:
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
This sounds like parenting 101: "you better eat your vegetables because there are starving children in Africa."
Cole H. not being vaccinated is not helping any vulnerable old people around the world. This is why your argument is garbage, Rojo.
Plus we ARE shipping vaccines overseas.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/21/us/politics/covid-vaccine-overseas-biden.htmlIt is entirely possible to do both, and we are.
I completely understand why Cole Hocker is not vaccinated. By the time he was eligible, it was probably NCAA's, then it was US Olympic trials. Now it's the Olympics. He does not want to lose any training or risk a bad reaction.
Of course, he also does not want to risk covid. The new variants are affecting a higher percentage of younger healthy adults. He would likely lose more training getting covid than getting the vaccine.
Of course, the main reason you get the vaccine when you are young is for the older folks. The less virus is spreading the less risk there is for all of us getting and spreading it (or having a bad outcome from it). That is the science. That is what the scientists are saying. They are not saying don't get it if you are young and healthy. If you follow the scientist that is what they are saying.
Robbie, you are probably the least thoughtful, wise, or responsible parent I've ever witnessed.
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
rojo wrote:
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
It's a shame this new board policy wasn't in effect during the barrage of COVID posts over the past 15 months and virtually every political thread in recent memory.
Still, it's great that you've made a shift to actively enforcing civility on the boards.
I look forward to this new era of LetsRun and wish you the best of luck in even-handed moderation!
haha, +1. i could not believe my eyes reading that post
hypocritur wrote:
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
Technically you’re right, but also a huge hypocrit….it would also be better to give away more of our funding for schools, bridges , hospitals and so on to worse off countries. But you’re against that. Not a coincidence that you are using this argument here but are against helping the world any other time.
Rojo is a Democrat, so maybe he does support those things. I lol whenever I see libs call rojo dumb now that I know he's a registered dem. It's basically a self-own.
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
Its better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.htmlImpaIa31 wrote:
Quote Post. wrote:
Nope this is actually not true
Only it is.
Ridgemonter wrote:
I completely understand why Cole Hocker is not vaccinated. By the time he was eligible, it was probably NCAA's, then it was US Olympic trials. Now it's the Olympics. He does not want to lose any training or risk a bad reaction.
Of course, he also does not want to risk covid. The new variants are affecting a higher percentage of younger healthy adults. He would likely lose more training getting covid than getting the vaccine.
Of course, the main reason you get the vaccine when you are young is for the older folks. The less virus is spreading the less risk there is for all of us getting and spreading it (or having a bad outcome from it). That is the science. That is what the scientists are saying. They are not saying don't get it if you are young and healthy. If you follow the scientist that is what they are saying.
This is the correct take.
All public universities in Oregon will require the vaccine for their students, so it’s highly likely that Cole will get his vaccine after the Olympics. I’ve no problem with any of that.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.