2600 bro wrote:
Jefe in the CO wrote:
I posted this in another thread awhile ago. We know that vaccines come with short term and long term complications, not just what shows up in the VAERS data base, but long term injuries that don't present themselves until much later:
"Prof Ley told me: "We have over the past 50 years done a terrific job of eliminating infectious disease.
"But we have seen an enormous and terrifying increase in autoimmune disease and in allergy.
"Where work on the microbiome comes in is seeing how changes in the microbiome, that happened as a result of the success we've had fighting pathogens, have now contributed to a whole new set of diseases that we have to deal with."
The microbiome is also being linked to diseases including inflammatory bowel disease, Parkinson's, whether cancer drugs work and even depression and autism."
The vaccination debate really only centers around whether the threat from Covid is greater than the threat to our short and long term health.
I'm guessing that the reason there is so much virtue signaling and public shaming around vaccinations is because we, as a nation, are so frightened of Covid. As well we should be because we are so fundamentally unhealthy (obesity is the highest risk factor for those with Covid).
We have no collective knowledge of how best to protect ourselves from disease and apparently have no desire to learn how. So instead we outsource our immune system to the medical community - arguably the worst place to seek protection. What we need to be doing is educating our citizens on how best to get off the pills and get on to the business of cultivating our good microbes (yes I do realize that there's no money in that.)
It has already been stated that we are shipping 50 million plus vaccines to other parts of the world. So for argument sake, if all the Cole Hockers of the US got their vaccines then we'd only be shipping 20 million to the third world?
So while many complain that Rojo's argument may have been clumsily stated - his point is valid. I understand that for the vaccine orthodoxy this is a tough pill to swallow but it likely has less adverse effect on your health than the actual vaccine.
I do agree that for the obese, elderly, and immune compromised, Covid is a very real threat. To the rest of us...not so much.
So what's left? A personal decision by Cole, who presumably has natural immunity, to take the shot or rely on his immune system?
Let's see: he's young, healthy, not obese, has natural immunity, no comorbidities. Conclusion: Go pick on someone else. I'm sure there's better pariahs out there to publicly castigate.
I'm not sure why the orthodoxy wants to make an example out of Cole when there are so many other individuals who's heads should be on a pike. Maybe political correctness?
Nothing in your post showed evidence of "short or long term effects" from vaccination. Just blatant baseless fearmongering. One of the largest triggers for long-term autoimmunity is high-dose viral infection... guess what the easiest way to prevent that?
Couldnt respond to the rest of his post, could ya?
Just one point that otherwise healthy young (i.e. 25 year olds) people have died from the vaccine.
Couldn’t follow the discussion, could ya? 😏
Following it closely, and well, actually.
Cole Hocker took down an olympic champion - matt centrowitz, the fastest miler in USA, arrogant throat-slitting-gesture-making matt centrowitz - and cole hocker took him down.
Has a chance to compete at the highest level at the olympics.
For personal reasons has not been vaccinated yet.
LetsRun wimps like you freak out.
Calm, Scientific-minded individuals respond.
LetsRun wimps like you freak out more.
Youre like the main character in Looper: gunning after a kid who hasnt comitted a crime yet.