dfasfdsaf wrote:
Emergency approval is not the same. It hasn't gone through long term testing, so anyone who says, "I took the vaccine. I'm fine. You're an idiot for not getting it," literally has no idea what they are talking about...because NONE of us know the long term impact. I don't care if anyone gets the vaccine or not. I just know I'm not taking a vaccine, as a relatively young and healthy person, for a virus that has a low death rate, especially when there are potential serious health consequences with the vaccine that we already know about, let alone what could happen long-term. My point is, nobody should be forced to take it. If Hocker doesn't want to take it, he shouldn't have to, and people shaming him for not taking it need to piss off.
People pushing the EUA line should try to articulate what safety signal would be caught by waiting another... 6 months for full FDA approval from now.
The phase 3 trials were ~40k people. They did not catch myocarditis risk because it was so extremely rare. If we had forced the vaccines to get a year of safety data with the same trial size -- you wouldn't have caught it! All the severe side effects are within the first few days or a week or two. Demanding more of a wait would do nothing.
The only argument is that you are waiting for a very-low toxicity vaccine which is completely cleared from the body after a few weeks... to suddenly cause noticeable toxicity after a year+. There is no precedent for this.
As others have said, if you are this terrified of unprecedented hidden long-term effects, why not freak out about COVID, which has proven medium-long term effects even in healthy adults at rates much higher than severe reactions to the COVID vaccine. The delta variant effectively assures that you WILL get COVID if you remain unvaccinated and don't hide in your house, so you can't hide behind population immunity either.
You can't play the "long-term effects" card without ensnaring yourself in COVIDs rather poor long-term effect profile.