When does the other 50% get vaccinated?

this is it wrote:

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Disingenuous (i.e. LIE) much, Danny?

Yes, the situation SIXTEEN MONTHS ago was different than it is now. But *even then* it was clear that Covid-19 was much more deadly than the 2009 H1N1 flu.

Does anyone else remember all the heat that Barack Obama (no, I never voted for him either) took for the 2009 flu? Remember how many Americans died from it? About thirteen thousand. In twelve months.

The Unkle wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

In the US it's a surge in the unvaccinated. Something like 99% of cases are in the unvaccinated.

That is a very good question. I just spent a year in a country seemingly doing everything right, masks, social distancing, vaccines (granted only 13% fully vaccinated) etc and the number of covid cases there have skyrocketed to 1500 nationwide from under 500. They are at the highest case rate they've ever had....of course only 13% are vaccinated.

It's the Delta variant and other variants that are much more transferable. The virus will continue to do what it does and mutate.

Of course.....if more people were vaccinated we wouldn't have these surges....

Alan

Makes zero sense. Cases fall rapidly allegedly due to vaccines. More people get vaccines, cases surge back.

Unless you buy the delta variant narrative.

The Delta variant narrative isn't new. It's been talked about for months and even hit other countries first. But I guess you believe it's a massive hoax orchestrated by the MSM and thousands of doctors and scientists to keep injecting us? Or you know it could be a virus mutating as expected and spreading amongst the unvaccinated as expected. Nope. Must be a hoax.

Alan

This!

So I think the end game is about 20% of Americans will not ever get the vaccine unless forced to. This is based on polls I've seen where 41% Reps and 4% DS do not plan on getting vaccinated. It may even take some vaccine mandates to get to that 80% because a lot people are just not proactive and are just lazy.

The President, Governors, Mayors, etc could easily mandate their workforce get the vaccine as a way of protecting the people. I know SF Mayor is waiting until one of the vaccines is fully approved before mandating it for her employees. The Military will mandate it once a vaccine is fully approved unless Biden mandates beforehand, which he isn't likely to. I have the J&J vaccine and I can easily see a scenario in which one of the other vaccines get full FDA approval and 'erbody required to get said approved vaccine regardless of vaccination status...cuz Army lol.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Makes zero sense. Cases fall rapidly allegedly due to vaccines. More people get vaccines, cases surge back.

Unless you buy the delta variant narrative.

The Delta variant narrative isn't new. It's been talked about for months and even hit other countries first. But I guess you believe it's a massive hoax orchestrated by the MSM and thousands of doctors and scientists to keep injecting us? Or you know it could be a virus mutating as expected and spreading amongst the unvaccinated as expected. Nope. Must be a hoax.

Alan

You're not always right Alan.

Signed, Your wife and Family

Runningart2004 wrote:

So I think the end game is about 20% of Americans will not ever get the vaccine unless forced to. This is based on polls I've seen where 41% Reps and 4% DS do not plan on getting vaccinated. It may even take some vaccine mandates to get to that 80% because a lot people are just not proactive and are just lazy.

I've been thinking more and more about the end game. It's depressing. I think you're in the ballpark, but I'd guess that we won't get to 70% by Christmas. By then, the effectiveness of the vaccine should be faded for those who were vaccinated in Dec-Feb last year so I don't think the effective rate will ever exceed 70% or so.

Of course, that's just the US. The rest of the world is probably not going to reach 40% by Christmas.

It's looking like the world will never be able to vaxx itself out of this pandemic.

I've read lots of post-apocalypse books. Many assumed deadly viruses, but none assumed this slow death-of-a-thousand-cuts scenario. This is uncharted, unimagined territory.

This thread has forced me to reassess my anti-vaxx position. I talked with a friend my age today (70+) who related several horror stories of vaccine side effects among her friends and then said both she and her husband were vaccinated. When I gave her a puzzled look, she added, "We're at risk. What else can we do?"

I'm more optimistic! Even if immunity wanes some, you'd still expect good protection from severe disease.

We are past the point of eradication but we can turn this into "just the flu" (if not better) with high vaccination rates.

The only big risk is a true immune escape variant.

Novavx approval could raise the rate, IMO. The demand for it among mRNA opposed and LNP wary seems strong.

To clarify. If approved and available.

Did Jamin get vaccinated?

Theragun used for anal sex (haha yo super serial) wrote:

Did Jamin get vaccinated?

He did!