When does the other 50% get vaccinated?

I am a Trump guy wrote:

President Trump, Mitch McConnell and Fox News are encouraging us to get the vaccine. Do your part.

Speaking as a sort-of lawyer, I wonder whether some of the folks jumping on the get-vaccinated bandwagon are trying to stave off civil liability.

Tucker's off the hook. A court of law has already ruled that the stuff he says is bullsh!t and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone. But others who aren't as big a tool as Tucker may be in some jeopardy.

Yawn^9 wrote:

Zero evidence to back up the claim. You don’t have some crystal ball that sees into the future.

Makes no sense to be terrified of the vaccine and not be also terrified of COVID.

In a year with over a billion vaccinated, the testing has been pretty overwhelming and very few significant side effects have shown up, especially with the Pfizer. That's more than good enough. The fact is that with most people dropping any pretense of distancing or wearing masks, and with half the population unvaccinated, and of course about 1/2 to 2/3 of the population not naturally immune, COVID is yet again spreading rapidly, up almost three times in the past two weeks after rapid increases in June. We'll likely be at 100,000 cases per day within two weeks and 200,000 in a month. Time to get vaccinated and shut this thing down before the death toll spikes back over 1,000 a day.

The Unkle wrote:

The oh so moral pro vaxx crowd oddly is obsessed with Covid deaths of the non vaxxed

+1

Yep...you got that right.

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

The oh so moral pro vaxx crowd oddly is obsessed with Covid deaths of the non vaxxed

+1

Yep...you got that right.

We are not the ones spamming the boards with base-rate fallacies while praying that the vaccine fails.

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

The oh so moral pro vaxx crowd oddly is obsessed with Covid deaths of the non vaxxed

+1

Yep...you got that right.

Better than obsession over the "impending" vax deaths... 500 million doses and still waiting. Yawn.

Steiner Math wrote:

I haven't gotten vaccinated because I believe the testing was rushed. I'm 95% sure it's safe, but 5% is too much a risk for me to risk my health. I've known a few people who've had Covid and it seems like a mild flu. I'm not at all worried about getting Covid. If in two to three years, Covid is still a thing and no one I know has suffered serious side effects from being vaccinated, I'll get vaccinated.

Same. Never been in a pharma trial, not starting now.

Harambe wrote:

Yawn^9 wrote:

Zero evidence to back up the claim. You don’t have some crystal ball that sees into the future.

Makes no sense to be terrified of the vaccine and not be also terrified of COVID.

☝️My body...my choice. Furthermore, I'm not terrified of COVID because I already had it and I'm still here in fine shape. This is where I have one up on you because you haven't had COVID. I'm 60 yrs old (59 when I was infected) and experienced mild symptoms similar to the flu with the exception of the anosmia being so what troubling. However, 16 months later I have absolutely no lingering effects nor any complications. I've had labs done & everything is normal. I'm working out 7 days a week between lifting & cardio, and eat a perfect organic whole food diet & take plenty of D3.

So, why didn't I have complications & end up on a ventilator? Why don't I have any of these supposedly lingering COVID effects that you & others fearmonger so much about? And according to a COVID exaggerator/fearmonger like you - I should have died from COVID being a middle-aged old stiff. Lol. Now it's this hyped up Delta variant that everyone is so terrified of (thanks MSM). So, when do I get the Delta? Soon? This winter? Next year? (you're supposedly the expert - so give me an answer). I'm not vaccinated & I usually don't wear a mask - so I'm waiting.

Fighting off respiratory infections is all about sound nutrition & vitamin D3. Give the immune system the necessary nutrients & it'll preform miraculously if you're healthy. Read this paper and if you really want to do a service to the public - quit fearmongering COVID & encourage people to eat better! (with your science background you should understand the power of nutrition)

You were healthy and you got lucky! It's all comparative risk. Your anecdotal evidence misses the point entirely. I get that you're trolling but I expect you to even to do that a little better.

Of course it's good to be healthy. That doesn't change the fact that 600k people have died of COVID in US. I don't get your point at all.

Giving your immune system a dose of vaccination to prepare for a replicating virus is the best way to ensure this

miraculous" performance you achieved :)

dmagic17 wrote:

Steiner Math wrote:

I haven't gotten vaccinated because I believe the testing was rushed. I'm 95% sure it's safe, but 5% is too much a risk for me to risk my health. I've known a few people who've had Covid and it seems like a mild flu. I'm not at all worried about getting Covid. If in two to three years, Covid is still a thing and no one I know has suffered serious side effects from being vaccinated, I'll get vaccinated.

That makes a lot of sense to me and I think explains most of the country's lack of vaccination - I don't think it comes down to laziness or strong antivax conviction as much as people think. It's literally just weighing the severity/risk of the virus (which is virtually non-existent) vs. the severity/risk of the vaccine (also virtually non-existent yet slightly less known).

This bullsh*t is so infuriating. The risk from vaccination is not larger than the risk from Covid. 1000 cases of myocarditis from mrna-vaccinations, none fatal or serious, from 177 MILLION doses administered. If you are legitimately worried about that little risk, I hope you've child proofed your entire house and existence.

GrapeSon wrote:

dmagic17 wrote:

That makes a lot of sense to me and I think explains most of the country's lack of vaccination - I don't think it comes down to laziness or strong antivax conviction as much as people think. It's literally just weighing the severity/risk of the virus (which is virtually non-existent) vs. the severity/risk of the vaccine (also virtually non-existent yet slightly less known).

This bullsh*t is so infuriating. The risk from vaccination is not larger than the risk from Covid. 1000 cases of myocarditis from mrna-vaccinations, none fatal or serious, from 177 MILLION doses administered. If you are legitimately worried about that little risk, I hope you've child proofed your entire house and existence.

Harambe wrote:

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

+1

Yep...you got that right.

We are not the ones spamming the boards with base-rate fallacies while praying that the vaccine fails.

base-rate fallacies?

2600 bro wrote:

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

+1

Yep...you got that right.

Better than obsession over the "impending" vax deaths... 500 million doses and still waiting. Yawn.

You are projecting. I have never said a word about impending vax deaths.

This bullsh*t is so infuriating. The risk from vaccination is not larger than the risk from Covid.

You have NO way of knowing if that is true or not.

One thing we do know.

We are being lied to and fear mongered.

We are being told that life expectancy dropped 1.5 years for Americans last year!

I kid you not.

Using official numbers 354,323 people died from Covid in America in 2020. Let's bump it to 500k for the Covid crowd to skew things in their direction.

There are about 331 million Americans.

Using the 500k death number, we see that 1 of every 662 Americans died of Covid in 2020.

Let's say, again to skew things in favor of the Covid crowd, that the average age at death for Covid was one years old.

The life expectancy of 661 Americans remains 77.5 while 1 died at the age of 1.

Life expectancy down 0.16 years on that basis. Not 1.50.

So clearly the 1.50 figure is a massive lie.

And, if they are lying about this, why would you believe everything else they say? Anything else?

Can any of you Covid lovers disprove this?

Harambe?

2600 bro?

And you and many others are free to make that choice. Just know you may be putting some of your family, your co-worker's family, etc at risk as the virus spreads.

Lack of empathy seems to be a commonality amongst those against vaccination. The don't tread on me types who can't think outside their own 6ft bubble.

Alan

News flash, that other 50% wont! You will also have a large percentage that do not get vaccinated, the same rules apply to all over vaccines that are currently available.

I guess you are also an excellent driver who doesn’t need to

A. Observe the speed limit

B. Stop at red lights

C. Heck, even drive on the right side of the road

Alan is correct, this isn’t just about you. It’s about the community.

Runningart2004 wrote:

So I know people on both sides of the political spectrum who haven't gotten vaccinated either out of laziness or conviction. It's been reported that a vast majority of new cases and hospitalizations (99%??) are unvaccinated. So it seems pretty reasonable to assume that if you get vaccinated we would severely limit the spread. So why aren't people getting vaccinated?

Interestingly about 50% of the US gets the flu vaccine each year:

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-get-flu-shots-vaccine-cdc/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-Healthcare&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlt7FwrD08QIV0m5vBB3f5gCxEAAYAiAAEgLwmvD_BwE

I would also bet that without mandated childhood vaccines we would see the same vaccination rate amongst the other vaccines.

Alan

If the idiots in charge of our government would fast track approval of vaccines using more time tested strategies the vaccinations rates would go up. Instead, the tey have chosen to just guilt and scare people into becoming part of the experiment for the mRNA industry. It makes complete sense that only about half of adults have bought into an experimental vaccine technology to protect against a virus that seems to mostly be problematic for the elderly and very unhealthy. It is a difference in assessment of uncertainty, one side more worried about the virus and the other about novel technology that turns your healthy cells into pathogen factories. When there are more options many more people will get vaccinated, problem solved.