When does the other 50% get vaccinated?

The oh so moral pro vaxx crowd oddly is obsessed with Covid deaths of the non vaxxed

I am a Trump guy wrote:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-urges-all-americans-to-get-covid-vaccine-its-a-safe-vaccine

Well if Trump says it I guess we have to do it.

Yawn^9 wrote:

formerly present wrote:

You are clearly out of your element here. Yes or no, can I still get Covid if I am vaccinated? Also yes or no, can the vaccine result in side effects(however limited the chance)?

If you cannot honestly answer yes to both those questions, you are not here in good faith. That’s how my life is affected.

Thanks for playing.

Does the COVID vaccine greatly reduce your chances of getting serious and/or lasting damage from COVID?

Please answer 'yes' or 'no.' No long winded explanations about how your risk from COVID is small. All I care about is the relative reduction in risk. Go!

It may reduce chances of a serious case. Long term results are impossible to know. That’s why they are called long term. Still waiting for your buddy to respond. Feel free to answer the questions yourself though

No matter what you do, you will not "contain" the virus. It's like holding water in your hand. I remember when people were freaked out when MRSA came around...now most people have it. It's going to be the same with this and its mutations. I've had it, my antibodies are great, no reason to get a vaccination has not been out long enough to determine if it will have detrimental effects on people. BTW I'm not a Trump supporter but I do think our president has cognitive issues and will parrot most anything the left wants him to.

There are treatments that work for people who do have comorbidities...unfortunately people like this doctor practice canned medicine. I hope she stays in Alabama.

To respond to OP, I assume that a fair amount of the unvaccinated are kids (so the % of adults who have been vaccinated is more like 60%), and once they can get the vaccine, it seems likely that at least the kids of the 60ish percent will get vaccinated. That should increase the national % some.

Yawn^9 wrote:

It may reduce chances of a serious case. Long term results are impossible to know. That’s why they are called long term. Still waiting for your buddy to respond. Feel free to answer the questions yourself though

What about long term effects from COVID? It makes sense that COVID, which is clearly worse for you than the vaccine, carries a higher risk of long term effects. Many are already documented in young healthy adults.

Hmmmm...

bigmig19 wrote:

https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-sorry-but-its-too-late-alabama-doctor-on-treating-unvaccinated-dying-covid-patients.html

Well and good, but why does this doctor have a smug, self satisfied grin on her face after having delivered a grim determination?

Steiner Math wrote:

I haven't gotten vaccinated because I believe the testing was rushed. I'm 95% sure it's safe, but 5% is too much a risk for me to risk my health. I've known a few people who've had Covid and it seems like a mild flu. I'm not at all worried about getting Covid. If in two to three years, Covid is still a thing and no one I know has suffered serious side effects from being vaccinated, I'll get vaccinated.

But risking the health of others is no problem for you?

I guess you never learned the golden rule. Walk like Jesus. Walk not talk.

Pete Zaa wrote:

60% (those suffering from chronic diseases) of the US should get vaccinated. All healthy people should not as their own health is 99.9% effective against any respiratory virus

A simple minded argument.

Viruses mutate amongst the unvaccinated, you.

President Trump, Mitch McConnell and Fox News are encouraging us to get the vaccine. Do your part.

Yawn^9 wrote:

It may reduce chances of a serious case. Long term results are impossible to know. That’s why they are called long term. Still waiting for your buddy to respond. Feel free to answer the questions yourself though

Correct, we do NOT know the long term results of COVID-19.

The Unkle wrote:

The oh so moral pro vaxx crowd oddly is obsessed with Covid deaths of the non vaxxed

Adversely, why don’t you care about their deaths?

Why do you want to bury that news?

Zero evidence to back up the claim. You don’t have some crystal ball that sees into the future.

I am a Trump guy wrote:

Yawn^9 wrote:

It may reduce chances of a serious case. Long term results are impossible to know. That’s why they are called long term. Still waiting for your buddy to respond. Feel free to answer the questions yourself though

Correct, we do NOT know the long term results of COVID-19.

…that’s my point. We don’t know the long term effects of either so I’ll take my chances with the virus.

Really simple.

When do they get vaccinated? Hopefully, before they die. It's useless to vaccinate dead people.

Yawn^9 wrote:

Yes or no, can I still get Covid if I am vaccinated?

YES. Even with the vaccine there is a GREATLY REDUCED possibility of your becoming infected with SARS-CoV-2 and developing Covid-19.

Also yes or no, can the vaccine result in side effects(however limited the chance)?

YES. There are documented cases of side effects with the vaccine, side effects whose likelihood is GREATLY REDUCED compared to the effects of Covid-19.

If you cannot honestly answer yes to both those questions, you are not here in good faith. That’s how my life is affected. NON SEQUITUR OF THE DAY award winner!

My question had been: "HTF much is your life changed by going to get a couple shots??" I actually answered your two questions; now *actually answer* the one of mine. Thanks.

Vanillanova wrote:

I think part of the hesitancy -- I am talking about from semi-normal people -- is that they saw the short term flu-like symptoms that their neighbors experienced after receiving the shot(s) and don't want to go through the short term discomfort. This is probably most true for younger people who have a low risk of serious illness from Covid.

I also think that the delay in opening up vaccine eligibility for most of the population dulled the urge of people to get vaccinated. In other words, the authorities inadvertently decreased pent-up demand for most of population by telling them they could not get the vaccine even if there were doses that were going to go to waste.

Are you on the right board? This "nuance" stuff generally doesn't go over too well on LRC.

I am a Trump guy wrote:

Pete Zaa wrote:

60% (those suffering from chronic diseases) of the US should get vaccinated. All healthy people should not as their own health is 99.9% effective against any respiratory virus

A simple minded argument.

Viruses mutate amongst the unvaccinated, you.

President Trump, Mitch McConnell and Fox News are encouraging us to get the vaccine. Do your part.

What are you talking about? I'm doing my part by staying healthy and not being à burden on the Healthcare system.

Also, do your research, viruses are mutating among vaccinated too. Have a look at what's going on in Israel and the UK