Cole Hocker is unvaccinated going into Olympic Games

Speedyrunner wrote:

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Good for him. He is the least susceptible person on planet. The risk from vaccine harm is greater than the risk of him contracting Covid. Yeah, he made that decision. His body, his choice.

Exactly!!

The risks for every adverse event is at least 100X great from COVID infection than vaccination for every age.group...

Your “facts” are wrong. Prior infection with alpha variant only confers partial protection against the Delta variant. And reinfection does occur, even with the same strain, at a higher rate than after m- RNA vaccination. Health risks from the vaccine are infinitely less than infection from coronavirus. And yes, I would know. I am a practicing infectious disease specialist physician. I don’t know when he had his Covid infection, but optimally immunization would occur about 90 days later.

Cole Hocker is plans to shush the virus away.

[quote]vonderlasa wrote:

Your “facts” are wrong. Prior infection with alpha variant only confers partial protection against the Delta variant. And reinfection does occur, even with the same strain, at a higher rate than after m- RNA vaccination.

That's insane. Experimental vaccines provide better protection that recovering from the virus does? Moderna is better than the human body.

How can you say such stuff?

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]vonderlasa wrote:

Your “facts” are wrong. Prior infection with alpha variant only confers partial protection against the Delta variant. And reinfection does occur, even with the same strain, at a higher rate than after m- RNA vaccination.

That's insane. Experimental vaccines provide better protection that recovering from the virus does? Moderna is better than the human body.

How can you say such stuff?

Just because a vaccine is experimental does not mean it can’t be effective. And I don’t know what the obsession is with assuming an immune system negates the effectiveness of a vaccine. The vaccine is directly taking advantage of your immune system so that it is more prepared to protect you from an actual viral load that could overwhelm your immune system.

beeBsteps wrote:

Biden and Harris attempted to undermine the public’s trust in the vaccine simply because they wanted to win an election against a man who was spearheading the rapid creation of a much-needed vaccine. They then flipped the narrative when they won the election and have now been accusing idiot republicans (and Facebook) as being the sole cause of the protraction of the pandemic because of republicans playing politics with vaccine hesitancy and misinformation. The consequences of all this is that many people have lost trust in public officials.

Biden and Harris absolutely, 100% started the serious politicization of the vaccine. They questioned the speed and safety of the vaccine on camera numerous times. Those same concerns are being discussed by the vaccine hesitant now. How can one not blame them for what they started?

Reminder: The Unkle has been a pure troll for over a year now. Do not engage and life is better.

^The one good point that this Trump simp makes

^Hilarious claim that Trump put literally any work into this... at best Mike Pence could get some credit, but this was truly 99% on Big Pharma. Literally all the admin had to do was urge the FDA to approve the vax.

^Absurd suggestion that this is a new phenomenon... are you joking? Total mistrust of public officials is as old as the USA. But any new wave of it has been going ongoing since at least the Clinton impeachment. Maybe 911 restored it because of increased patriotism, but Bush certainly miffed that up.

^Incredible act of selective memory after months and months and months of Fox and Trump admin denying covid and spreading misinformation. Really giving himself away by suggesting Fox somehow took a page out of Biden/Harris's book

I don't even like this administration or the dems, but my god you guys are incapable of thinking for yourselves. It's pathetic.

vaxxxer wrote:

Biden and Harris absolutely, 100% started the serious politicization of the vaccine. They questioned the speed and safety of the vaccine on camera numerous times.

One of the actual full quotes from Harris that you guys like to pick just a piece of: “If public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it, absolutely,” she said. “But if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it.”

Their comments came after Trump spent months saing tons of BS about covid including that you should drink bleach. You guys are some no-context kings and it's obvious that you get your information from the same spout: Tucker Carlson's pisser.

vaxxxer wrote:

beeBsteps wrote:

Biden and Harris attempted to undermine the public’s trust in the vaccine simply because they wanted to win an election against a man who was spearheading the rapid creation of a much-needed vaccine. They then flipped the narrative when they won the election and have now been accusing idiot republicans (and Facebook) as being the sole cause of the protraction of the pandemic because of republicans playing politics with vaccine hesitancy and misinformation. The consequences of all this is that many people have lost trust in public officials.

Biden and Harris absolutely, 100% started the serious politicization of the vaccine. They questioned the speed and safety of the vaccine on camera numerous times. Those same concerns are being discussed by the vaccine hesitant now. How can one not blame them for what they started?

Better to the wrong then right than wrong... and still wrong.

Trump has cheered the vaccine recently too, though, so that's good.

Safety protocols will determine whether Hocker has Covid, before he competes. Other athletes will probably avoid him. Everybody who wants to be protected will be fine. Arguing over natural immunity vs vaccine immunity and prior infection is all pointless.

if he infects anyone with covid and that person is unable to compete, he should be banned from the Sport.

Who gives a sh*t about Hocker?! Not a contender, not important, just one of the many Tokyo tourists. As long as he wears a mask and stays put, he‘s as dangerous physically or epidemiologically as Simone Biles‘ second alternate.

Does anyone know if Centro is vaxxed?

He's the gold medal favorite

Nothing better than watching hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns.

Cole is from cathedral high school and a great Christian patriotic family who reject democrat nonsense.

uleshi wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/8020273002

Honestly I don’t care. He has his rights like any American citizen. Quit analyzing everything he does

michiganrunner55 wrote:

uleshi wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.indystar.com/amp/8020273002

Honestly I don’t care. He has his rights like any American citizen. Quit analyzing everything he does

Unfortunately he’ll have to play by different rules in another country.

Some officials might see the US 1500 Champ had COVID and isn’t vacced! Do some research and see how he claims he won the lottery because he was born in the US! Then they might decide he needs to play by the rules, be vaxed or get axed. He’ll have to return to the US or get vaxed right before the 1500 or just flat out get banned. Also might be some other country raising a fuss about this... playin with fire here.

Better get a double epo vax and a white card signed off before getting on the flight.

At this point ( well, a long time ago) you are either selfishly contributing to people dying of this easily preventable disease , or you are part of the solution- getting a vaccine. We only have variants because the unvaccinated continue propagating the virus. 50 % of this country does not know what it means to make a (very small) sacrifice. Thank god they were not around during world war. The non vaxers are todays version of draft dodgers and simpletons.

objectiveobserver wrote:

That's the only reason not to get vaccinated - he has "some" immunity - though not as much as if he were vaccinated.

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This is completely wrong. If Hocker has had the virus he is at least as well protected as a vaccinated person. And possibly better protected. There is zero risk to be reinfected iwhen you have first had the virus.

Whereas there are many "breakthrough" cases where vaccinated people get the virus and even die from it.

yea, wrongo