"Super spikes" vs Polyurethane/Mondo

Running Shoes/Running Gear

2 years ago 07/19/2021 3:15pm EDT

Why is everyone making a huge uproar over new technology in running spikes/shoes when I don't think the same happened when track tech changed? Did cinder track racers complain as much and request asterixis after new records were set on rubber tracks? Im pretty sure that running on a mondo track over a cinder is WAY more advantageous than having one of the new super spikes. I could certainly run faster on a mondo track with my old spikes than a cinder track with whatever "cheater" spike you could make. Thoughts?

2 years ago 07/19/2021 3:18pm EDT

re: Your neighbor

letsrun didn't exist back then

2 years ago 07/19/2021 3:22pm EDT

re: Your neighbor

When tracks changed, did everyone in any given race run on the same surface? Or were there tracks where they rubberised say, lane 4 and 5, and left everyone in lanes 1-3 and 6-8 to run on cinder? That would make a fun 400, right?

Because that's what's basically happening now - it's like the cycling a deux vitesses thing from the 90s.

2 years ago 07/19/2021 3:27pm EDT

re: Your neighbor

The evolution from grass to cinder to 1st generation poly surfaces to now combo rubber/poly surfaces with engineered geometries has had a far greater and more profound impact on performances that "superspikes" (which ultimately boil down to the increases of cushioning without the negative effects of ground force reduction and increased weight).

I think it's about that simple - the big difference is these days everybody wants to complain and make a thing out of it because that is the society we have become. I never once heard Bannister complain about how track tech ever marginalized his accomplishments, never once heard Snell do the same. They just recognized and accepted innovation and technology in the sport for what it was and never had to make it about some perceived injustice against them. It's just a different society these days,

2 years ago 07/19/2021 3:36pm EDT

re: InNameOnly

When the initial synth tracks were made of shredded car tires, lane 1 would be quickly gouged out into a trough, making lane 2 a preferable position even in distance races.

2 years ago 07/20/2021 9:06am EDT

re: Your neighbor

You know that little kid commercial "why not both?"

They've been tinkering with super-tracks since Rio 2016

Doha was the preview to what's going to happen in Tokyo.

The only "fair" thing about track energy return is at least in theory all athletes in that particular race get the same advantage, but of course people will still compare the times to a decade ago which isn't right.

https://i.imgur.com/bl160sa.png

https://www.mondoworldwide.com/na/en/sport/track-and-field/mondotrack-ws/

https://www.311institute.com/world-records-set-to-tumble-on-rio-2016s-nano-tech-track/

2 years ago 07/20/2021 1:33pm EDT

re: Salvitore Stitchmo

Thats a great point, I think our society has changed where we complain about everything when in the past people just accepted changes and progress.

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