I can’t cheer for Grant Fisher

If Houlihan did cheat, why is it impossible that she might have acted on her own? I find that easier to believe than that everyone on the team cheated.

Those of you suggesting, overtly or not, that Jeff Drenth died because of some nefarious drug experimentation at AW can eat a D. He was as clean as they come, excelled on rust and Northen Michigan grit, and was the nicest person you'd ever meet. He'd rather finish dead last falling down than win by cheating.

Why'd he die? Enlarged heart. History of arrhythmia. See - Jim Fixx, Ryan Shay, etc.

Go F yourself man.

I thought you were going to say because he's like Ted Cruz and born in Canada, thus not American.

Michigan HS Coach wrote:

When Ritz went to Alberto I could no longer cheer for him. It broke my heart as I watched him grow up and he was one of us. I now feel the same way with Grant. You can’t be with a group that has had a drug bust and assume others in the group are doing things the right way. If Coach Schumacher would of stepped forward and said Shelby went rogue then I could still get behind the group but the ignorant defense makes everyone look guilty.

I hate it but I have to be honest these Michigan heroes became tainted by association.

I can't get behind anything you say since you wrote "would of". Ya cancelled!

Yep, tainted meat by association is real, Jerry, Shalane, Ritz, Dennis Mitchell et al

2 THE GILLS!!! wrote:

Michigan HS Coach wrote:

...If Coach Schumacher would of stepped forward...

WOULD HAVE!!!!

For the love of God can you people please quit making that mistake. It is pathetic.

+1

I think very unlikely she acted on her own.

But, I also think it’s very unlikely that everyone in the program cheated.

I think a good chunk of LRC is under the impression that if Houlihan intentionally doped she was doing it herself. The fact that she was living with Centro at the time turns me both ways on whether she was doping or not, but like Rojo said, I don't think Schumacher is advising some systematic doping program in BTC.

avnlkkn wrote:

I think a good chunk of LRC is under the impression that if Houlihan intentionally doped she was doing it herself. The fact that she was living with Centro at the time turns me both ways on whether she was doping or not, but like Rojo said, I don't think Schumacher is advising some systematic doping program in BTC.

So Centro was with her 24 hours a day or had a location tracker on her phone?

but it is ok what Prins did with Rockford back in the day... right dude

I like that he went sub-4 in HS and lived up to the promise. He's had a steady career and has been patient through a lot of second place finishes.

Woody Kincaid is also pretty cool too.

I don' t believe Shelby doped so whatever

Ok7272 wrote:

I like that he went sub-4 in HS and lived up to the promise. He's had a steady career and has been patient through a lot of second place finishes.

Woody Kincaid is also pretty cool too.

I don' t believe Shelby doped so whatever

Cool. I like Fischer too. And Kincaid.

But doesn't change the fact that SH had nandrolone in her, period, indisputable.

Doesn't matter what you think, either.

Maybe you can see if SH still matters in 4 years.....or 2028 if you were hoping to see her in the Olympics

Michigan HS Coach wrote:

I now feel the same way with Grant. You can’t be with a group that has had a drug bust and assume others in the group are doing things the right way. If Coach Schumacher would of stepped forward and said Shelby went rogue then I could still get behind the group but the ignorant defense makes everyone look guilty.

...Okay? You're not obligated to 'root for' anyone.

You really felt the need to make a thread about this?

Agreed.

I hate Grant Fisher.

2 THE GILLS!!! wrote:

Michigan HS Coach wrote:

...If Coach Schumacher would of stepped forward...

WOULD HAVE!!!!

For the love of God can you people please quit making that mistake. It is pathetic.

+1

Harsh.

And you are?

2 THE GILLS!!! wrote:

Michigan HS Coach wrote:

...If Coach Schumacher would of stepped forward...

WOULD HAVE!!!!

For the love of God can you people please quit making that mistake. It is pathetic.

I proofread my posts multiple times before I send them. But for the love of God, please stop hijacking threads to correct grammar. Discussion boards on the internet will always have grammatical errors. They are not professional publications with editors, nor doctoral dissertations. Stop being tortured by it and please stop torturing everyone else by being that grammar teacher that just can't leave work at work. Especially on forums without an edit button.

I can't say you're wrong. However, I became much less frustrated with sports when I finally accepted they all use PEDs, at least at the elite and professional levels.