Serious College Coaching Question

You sound really lost. Stanford football had $44M in revenue while your favorite track team had none. If you donate $2M, they could hire a real coach and fund a few scholarships. No. You just want to complain. That is very common for young people who don't understand that somebody has to pay the bills.

brilliant plan! Even better I could just petition to reallocate 2mil from our schools football team to the the XC and Track team. Once they say yes our coach can finally have a full squad of scholarship athletes! No doubt that's all he needs to get a full crew of runners to average under 5:45 pace for a 8k! It's not the guy or his coaching, it's the lack of scholarship runners! Why didn't I think of that!

Please never respond to anything again Grace Harry.

I understand, Dirk. Been there. It isnt about you, your allegience, desires, skill set, school pride etc.. I dont know how many years you are removed from your alma mater but some of the responses above are correct. Missions change, programs/goats are sacrificed as a means, some people are ok with mediocrity or worse. Its just how the current plan works from their leadership. Is it possible that was the case when you were there but you couldnt see it through your lens? Maybe your group was an exception.

I had a vision similar but not necessarily exclusive to my alma mater. At the time, they couldnt pay me more than i was already making by a lot. Couldnt do that to my family. However, over the past 20 years they have gone really soft due to a combination of variables but it still adds up to a big nothing burger compared to when I was there and they dont care about being competitive and havent for some time. I know I could do better but again, I cant nor couldnt control the limitation the admin would place on me. I wouldnt want to be in that situation because it would just lead to a bunch of complaining, probably to my wife, and wreck that rationship.

IF you are in a position, maybe visit the coach and volunteer helping whomever they have on the team. Make it fun and challenging without the pressure of your success/performance being a factor. Culture change starts on the inside and takes time. Maybe it will grow, maybe not. If thats not possible, try a new program you can have fun without the angst of saving a sunken ship. Again, I understand.

Is it UOP? Damn they suck.

Athletic programs are self sustaining. The football team pays for itself plus some of your track team. A better plan would be to cancel track and save the travel money and salaries expended for track. You just don't seem to understand.

Grace Harry wrote:

Athletic programs are self sustaining. The football team pays for itself plus some of your track team. A better plan would be to cancel track and save the travel money and salaries expended for track. You just don't seem to understand.

Outside of the power 5 this statement could not be any more false. Mid-majors lose on average of 1.25 to 1.50 million dollars per season. If they attend a bowl game, add an additional $750k to the deficit.

How do they spend $1.5M that they don't have? Are you saying that a bank lends an additional $1.5M to the Athletics Department at Mid Major U every year and they are now $10M in debt? $50M in debt? That would last 1 year and then their creditors would come calling and the school would be shut down.

If they are not running 5:45 pace, this team is getting cut next year. Face the facts. It started going downhill right after you left? That means your class was to blame for poor hosting of recruits. This whole time you were blaming everyone else.

banner year wrote:

How do they spend $1.5M that they don't have? Are you saying that a bank lends an additional $1.5M to the Athletics Department at Mid Major U every year and they are now $10M in debt? $50M in debt? That would last 1 year and then their creditors would come calling and the school would be shut down.

Mid-major athletic departments are not self-sufficient and they receive money from other budgets within the university. How much money each sport for each school makes or loses is out there unless something has changed in the past 10 years since I last looked. I am far too slow to look but if you are faster and interested please post what you find. I think you will find mid major's football is a money sieve.