Why won't some adults still not get vaccinated?

The COVID pandemic has been a goat rope since the very beginning. Incompetence by the CDC, NIH, China, Trump, and the knee-jerk media denouncing anything Trump said.

Then, Pfizer develops a vaccine in less than 90 days. Then, Pfizer gets EUA. (It's a coincidence that former head of the FDA now sits on the board at Pfizer.)

The national spokesperson is an old white guy who happens to be the highest paid civilian in the government and is more bureaucrat than doctor. Fauci is a master of 1984 doublespeak. It's no wonder that Blacks don't trust him. Conservatives don't trust the government in general and they surely won't trust this guy. I listened to him lie about masks back in March 2020 and was so stunned I stopped the tv and rewound the tape to hear him again just to make sure I hadn't misunderstood him. Then, he did it again and again. "Masks don't work... blah blah blah" but we desperately need more PPEs (aka masks) for medical personnel. One of Trump's many mistakes was not firing this guy back in April 2020.

Finally, COVID has nearly disappeared in many regions, despite media's sensationalism. For example, my state Tennessee had 11,000 new cases per day in December. We haven't had 11,000 cases total since May. The media has cried wolf too many times. Many of us consider it to be propaganda. It has always been biased, but now it's blatant.

I can't speak for everyone else, but my position is unchanged. My risk is very low due to my lifestyle, health, and supplements. (I suspect I had COVID in June 2020 and sailed through it with only one long COVID side effect that lasted four months.) I'll wait and see what the long term effects of the mRNA vaccine. Interestingly, my friend who was forced to get vaccinated to keep his job opted for the J&J vaccine. Smart move, in my opinion.

It's interesting how scared people were of polio for relatively few fatalities. Maybe because affluent people got the disease it generated more of a public panic. either that or the images of crippled victims of the disease was somehow more disturbing to people at the time than a disease that simply killed the host.

I mean a random yellow fever epidemic in 1793 killed 3.5% of the US population at the time within a year or two and isn't even mentioned much in history books. It killed 150,000 people at a time when the population was quite small. Equivalent of a disease killing 11.5 million Americans today in terms of the death rate per capita.

What does "getting vaccinated" really mean ?

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-malaysia-0082fd99b68d7d412a188a7c8064f52e

Yet somehow they are still alive.

If you are vaccinated, why are you worried, you are not in supposed danger, the unvaxxed are. Do you go around being angry at people who eat fast food every day and smoke cigarrettes? If the vaccine doesn't safeguard you from the virus, then what difference does it make whether people get it or not?

I have not been vaccinated yet. 37 year old male. My wife is a doctor and has been working in an ICU since this started (she got the vaccine). I have decided not to get the vaccine yet because I want to wait to see if there were any effects.

Since the start of the epidemic, 27000 people under the age of 60 have died from Covid, and of those, 90 percent had co-morbidities.

That's what, one or two per state per day? And I should worry?

I think what people are worried about is huh, all the disruption to their lives. I mean, I for one just want my kids to be able to go to school, participate in sports etc... so far things have been getting back to normal in a lot of ways but it seems like we are not out of the woods completely even though many people are pretending we are. If enough people refuse the vax and we get some vaccine resistant variants spreading like crazy we will be right back where we started.

I am young and healthy, havent been sick in forever, but I got vaccinated because I want this sh!t to be over. Why people just want to drag it out is beyond me.

no more lockdowns wrote:

I think what people are worried about is huh, all the disruption to their lives. I mean, I for one just want my kids to be able to go to school, participate in sports etc... so far things have been getting back to normal in a lot of ways but it seems like we are not out of the woods completely even though many people are pretending we are. If enough people refuse the vax and we get some vaccine resistant variants spreading like crazy we will be right back where we started.

I am young and healthy, havent been sick in forever, but I got vaccinated because I want this sh!t to be over. Why people just want to drag it out is beyond me.

I guess the vaccine doesn't work, huh?

Is the vaccine supposed to protect against every possible strain? Is that how vaccines work?

This works for me wrote:

Since the start of the epidemic, 27000 people under the age of 60 have died from Covid, and of those, 90 percent had co-morbidities.

That's what, one or two per state per day? And I should worry?

If you are a resident of a nursing home and are already about to die of natural causes, then you need to worry. Otherwise, good to go.

This works for me wrote:

Since the start of the epidemic, 27000 people under the age of 60 have died from Covid, and of those, 90 percent had co-morbidities.

That's what, one or two per state per day? And I should worry?

You are 100% willing to infect people over 60 and let them die. Why not just shoot them and help them avoid the high Covid medical costs, and thereby leave a larger inheritance to the young like you?

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

I guess the vaccine doesn't work, huh?

The vast majority of people running around without masks are the unvaccinated who pretend they are vaxxed.

The vaccines work.

The unvaccinated brains are what do not work.

high man wrote:

If you are a resident of a nursing home and are already about to die of natural causes, then you need to worry. Otherwise, good to go.

^ Woeful ignorance on full display.

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Because as a healthy person in your twenties there is no reason. The chance to die from covid is basically 0

Stupid.

1) The chance you could die is NOT ZERO.

2) Many people who don't die of COVID have serious other issues. Some are hospitalized for months, sedated and put on a ventilator. Some have heart damage or lung damage or damage to other organs. Panic attacks and other mental health issues are common.

3) You morons who don't get vaccinated are just variant breeders. Playing with fire. No care for others around you, so A$$HOLES!

4) People under age 12 are still at risk because they aren't being vaccinated yet.

You are a moron.

I'm not vaccine hesitant. I too had cleared a natural infection and a serology test prior to my vaccination appointment showed antibodies. I therefore canceled it after I spoke with my doctor back in April. Most likely the contact happened in March and I was for the most part asymptomatic. I was not contagious to anyone and the Dr. Said that getting a vaccine shot at that point we be mostly for my benefit. I chose to wait because I wanted to see studies on reinfection rates among those with previous infections. It appears antibodies are fairly strong for up to year, similar to the vaccine. Even then the B cells may be present for years in the marrow. The chance of reinfection is extremely low and equal to that of those who have been vaccinated.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-19-immunity-infection-and-vaccine-5187254

They aren't sure that vaccine will offer full protection against the delta varient either and some recent studies show it may only be 64% effective.

I am an advocate for the vaccine especially for those that are in high risk categories, but even if I became ill with the delta varient, the chances of ending up in the hospital or dying are extremely low. A study of 50,000 Californians - of which I am one shows those that exercise regularly at more intense levels almost never died from covid after infection.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/14/regular-exercise-can-reduce-your-risk-of-severe-covid-study.html

I believe there are many others that have a similar experience to mine and feel they have a natural defense to the virus now or at least a temporary "warranty" of protection. There is also a strong possibility I once again would simply be asymptomatic and wouldn't realize I was even infected.

My wife is vaccinated, friends, family etc. Not my children as they are too young. I will look into getting a vaccine, but not until March 2022. I just can't justify getting it now, and I will continue to research and review new studies on long term immunity, natural infection vs vaccines and reinfection rates. Good luck to all.

WWRD wrote:

Because I've had COVID, mild symptoms, no down time, and have antibodies.

Not good enough, and no, you are not as protected as you believe.

fisky wrote:

Then, Pfizer develops a vaccine in less than 90 days. Then, Pfizer gets EUA. (It's a coincidence that former head of the FDA now sits on the board at Pfizer.)

Pfizer tweaked the vaccine initially developed for the original sars virus. Why are you so stupid?

And so what if they developed it in less than "90 days?" Do you not understand the technology? Is that why you're so scared?