So much for Clayton Murphy being the Olympic favorite. Murphy just got SPANKED in Hungary

Sub-9 guy wrote:

Notwithstanding the comments about it being jet lag and/or a “rust buster” during another block of training, isn’t it possible that Murphy merely doesn’t want to show his hand as a world beater right now and put a target on his back? Much better to merely look like a contender and then show up when it counts, like at the trials, no?

Not saying this is the situation but all of this could be a factor(s). Let’s reserve judgement, unless he is injured.

Nah, not buying it. Murphy's a competitor and wants to win every race. Besides, winning races give you an edge and intimidates opponents. Rudisha and Bolt won most of their races before the gun even went off. Murphy lost because he's just one of a clutch of very good 800m guys right now. He's not dominant, he's not obviously more talented than everyone else, he's just very good and had really good race at the trials. He should medal in Tokyo but only a fool thinks he's a certainty for gold

Arop is the Ace Of Spades in the pack, Lemmy.

He didn't do that workout the day before the race, it just went up on youtube the day before. He's clearly still in the states in the video.

That said, you're a fool if you read anything into this result. Time change, just off the plane, and given the calendar he's almost certainly in his last big training block before the games. He's also very lightly raced right now, so I'm guessing that's why he shoehorned this one in.

High hopes wrote:

You'd have to be an idiot to bet on the men's 800 this year. There is no favorite. No one is consistently winning, instead, you have a bunch of guys in the 1:43-1:44 range who are all capable of taking it on their day. People got way too excited by Murphy's great run at the trials - it put him in the mix rather than establish him as favorite.

I don't even think the result in Monaco will clarify things, it'll just add to the confusion. This all makes it probably the most exciting event on the men's side

Truth.

Bonkers wrote:

He didn't do that workout the day before the race, it just went up on youtube the day before. He's clearly still in the states in the video.

That said, you're a fool if you read anything into this result. Time change, just off the plane, and given the calendar he's almost certainly in his last big training block before the games. He's also very lightly raced right now, so I'm guessing that's why he shoehorned this one in.

Check his Instagram. Different workout than the one posted on YouTube. He’s clearly doing long sprints in the video.

The Major wrote:

Typical letsrun click bait.

This is why I stopped coming to this site over 15 years ago.

Huh? You with the TVA or something? Your name Doctor Emmit Brown?

JBaller33 wrote:

Bonkers wrote:

He didn't do that workout the day before the race, it just went up on youtube the day before. He's clearly still in the states in the video.

That said, you're a fool if you read anything into this result. Time change, just off the plane, and given the calendar he's almost certainly in his last big training block before the games. He's also very lightly raced right now, so I'm guessing that's why he shoehorned this one in.

Check his Instagram. Different workout than the one posted on YouTube. He’s clearly doing long sprints in the video.

Elliot Giles also simulating Olympics deliberately with three races in a few days. "It didn't really feel like a race ... I didn't want to go too deep ... I've got Monaco in two days, and I raced two days ago".

(If the above sounds cocky, when the interviewer says that the win must've been a nice boost he avers: "Well a few of them beat me the other day, so a boost within reason." He's just as unsure as us as to what it means I think. But obviously fit and confident.)

Traveling to Europe & losing an 800 by .31 is "getting spanked" now? & saying he got beat by Webb "who didn't even make the UK team" while ignoring that he was 3rd & beat McBride (world champs finalist, 1:43pb), Rotich (world champs bronze, 1:42pb), & Tuwei (1:43pb).

Maybe this is 1 result that you cherry picked & the 800 is both a difficult & random event. It's ok if there's no clear favorite heading into the Olympics. Murphy is still a medal threat.

Got beat by .41~! Wow! He really got spanked!

Number 33 wrote:

JBaller33 wrote:

He’s the favorite now along with Rotich. Who in this field has an Olympic medal again?

Pretty sure Amos is the favourite. But things will be a lot clearer after Monaco.

Where is Amos?

JRinaldi wrote:

Anyone know where letsrun are getting their splits from in the article?

They said Giles was 52.9 and 25.5 for the last 200, I get 52.6 and 25.9 for the last 200 (1:44.8h on my watch)

Might sound pedantic, but I like to keep a track of these things :)

There seems to be a c.0.3sec delay from the athlete's torso actually crossing the lines at 400/600/800 and the split times coming up.

Using the gap between the pacer and Giles at the bell and 600m, I get him with a 400m split of 52.6 and a 2nd lap of 52.3. He was 1.2 secs behind the pacer about 20m before the 600m split (using a clear marker on screen to get the difference) , so I get his 600m split as being 1:19.2. This means his last 200m was 25.6 (if you take his time of 1:44.88 as 1:44.8) or 25.7, if you round up to nearest tenth. I also got him at 700m with 1:31.8 on screen and 1:32.0 on stadium clock (shown on infield). That means his last 100m was 12.8/12.9. Pretty good for a 1:44 high but nothing out of the ordinary. Looked strong though.

Calm down, until the olympics are happening nothing matters

Totally right

Long trip out there

I still can't get over that Brazier is not here. Has anyone found out what really happened. I just watched a y tube of an Oregon Friendly 1 year ago where he literally jogs a 3:39 something, looking so relaxed. A 1:42 guy just does not blow up like that if something was wrong. Could he have been sick with COVID? It takes a very long time to recover from that as a pro athlete. Its just a shame the US does not select team members, in my opinion.

Track and field is a sport, everything else is a game wrote:

I still can't get over that Brazier is not here. Has anyone found out what really happened. I just watched a y tube of an Oregon Friendly 1 year ago where he literally jogs a 3:39 something, looking so relaxed. A 1:42 guy just does not blow up like that if something was wrong. Could he have been sick with COVID? It takes a very long time to recover from that as a pro athlete. Its just a shame the US does not select team members, in my opinion.

Some kind of fracture. He's in a boot and on crutches.

the beagle wrote:

Track and field is a sport, everything else is a game wrote:

I still can't get over that Brazier is not here. Has anyone found out what really happened. I just watched a y tube of an Oregon Friendly 1 year ago where he literally jogs a 3:39 something, looking so relaxed. A 1:42 guy just does not blow up like that if something was wrong. Could he have been sick with COVID? It takes a very long time to recover from that as a pro athlete. Its just a shame the US does not select team members, in my opinion.

Some kind of fracture. He's in a boot and on crutches.

It's not currently fractured. He had a fracture last year with other damage and it didn't really heal correctly. It seems like the bone is ok, but his ligaments are F-d. He just needs to take several months off, do rehab, and make a charge at the World Championships next year.

OK, thanks for the info, too bad, incredible talent

High hopes wrote:

Murphy lost because he's just one of a clutch of very good 800m guys right now. He's not dominant, he's not obviously more talented than everyone else, he's just very good and had really good race at the trials. He should medal in Tokyo but only a fool thinks he's a certainty for gold

LOL he's not a certainty for a gold medal, not a certainty for a medal, and at this point not even a certainty for the final.

I hope he does well but the 800m is crazy competitive right now and he will have to bring it all.

After seeing Monaco Amos is the only person I would place money on for a medal.

Arop and the Kenyans Saruni/Korir/Rotich are all looking very good an in control at the front of races during the Diamon League. Likely finalists. Everyone else is a big plus-or-minus.